Whole leaf tobacco

[deluxestogie]

maybe my google fu is off but couldn't find "FmGrowit" on the web and tried emailing you. Do you have any VA first priming? If so, let me know how to pay and how much for shipping (i'm in central VA, 23229)

that's where i've been buying it but Don is out of stock until november

Don at WLT = FmGrowit. The one and the same.

Bob

 

[BigBonner]

I have light yellow and orangey BL aged three years now . . I have a barn full of several different types of leaf for cigarettes , chew , cigars
But make sure to buy from Don when he has tobacco in stock , Support this site .

 

[larryccf]

without going thru my receipts i've bought north of 24 lbs from WLT since last Nov/Dec., and don said he won't have 1st priming VA back in stock till November. Are you saying you have some light yellow 1st priming? If so, i'm out and would like to pick some up

- let me know and how you take pmt

 

[larryccf]

Just thought i post a "thumbs up" to BigBonner - just bought some tobacco, product was under described (his descript, "I've got some but it isn't pretty, but has been aged 3 years). Not sure if he's used to seeing tobacco that's been ironed and folded before shipping, i never could figure out what "wasn't pretty".) But product was shipped fast, and here within 2 days of the order, but he's not that far away in Kentucky and me in VA and the leaf was 1st class tobacco.

But the interesting part - he threw some samples in, and one in particular, a "lemon taste bud" that he identified as a burley. I haven't had a lot of experience with burleys and had always assumed burleys were pretty strong in nicotene and so i'd stayed away. This stuff was relatively light in nicotene (guesstimate, maybe twice the nicotene as Don's VA lemon), but super nice on taste smoked straight by itself. It also has a super cocoa bag note that sure makes opening the tub a nice experience - i tried a small amount blended with the VA lemon, maybe 15% of the lemon taste buds with the balance VA lemon. It brings a nice taste to the smoke.

It'd be nice if BigBonner built a website listing all the blends he has (two of the samples weren't on the list at the beginning of this thread), with pix of the different leaves

For what it's worth

 

[burge]

Larry you will like Big's yellow Virginia. Its light mild and sweet have to try some of the orange Virginia that was pretty fast shipping to Canada too.

 

[BigBonner]

Glad you like the lemon VA .
The other is called Yellow Twist Bud . I sent you mid stalk leaves , The better looking leaves .
I have been shredding the lower trash leaves off my yellow twist Bud and I may be kind of spoiled with it . Bottom leaves are leaves that I would not want to sell as they are really rough trashy , I just burn it up a little at a time with a little Lemon VA .

 

[larryccf]

those lower trash leaves i assume are what Don refers to as "1st priming" or "thin leaf" yellow tobacco - that's really what i was hoping you had for sale

 

[burge]

Both are good the orange Virginia is a stronger leaf Both are good I think together they make a nice blend. So going to have fun experimenting

 

[burge]

Glad you like the lemon VA .
The other is called Yellow Twist Bud . I sent you mid stalk leaves , The better looking leaves .
I have been shredding the lower trash leaves off my yellow twist Bud and I may be kind of spoiled with it . Bottom leaves are leaves that I would not want to sell as they are really rough trashy , I just burn it up a little at a time with a little Lemon VA .

There is no such thing as trashy leaf. That lighter leaf is what us hear in Canada really like. I know the yellow is what i will order again it reminds me of when mixed together the Mcclintock virginia.

 

[BigBonner]

those lower trash leaves i assume are what Don refers to as "1st priming" or "thin leaf" yellow tobacco - that's really what i was hoping you had for sale

Yellow Twist Bud is cut and cured whole stalk just like we cure Burley tobacco . Leaves will all ripen on the whole stalk , top to bottom .
Those trashy leaves are the leaves closest to the ground ( The tobacco I sent you was mid stalk leaves and not the trash leaves ) . They will be rough and what we call trash or flying's . Different parts of the world call them mud lugs
Mid stalk we call lugs or leaf
Top leaves we call red tips which most of the time is a darker leaf .

Flue curing , leaves are primed from the ground up . First priming is the bottom ripe leaves .
lugs, leaf, tips

 

[deluxestogie]

There is no such thing as trashy leaf.

If you grow leaf, you know that there is indeed a fair amount of truly trashy leaf. Some is ugly, but fit to smoke. Some is awful, and only fit for composting.

Bob

 

[BigBonner]

A wasp stung me right on my eye ball yesterday and I have stayed in dark places all day .Sunlight Light agitates my eyes when I am outside.
As you can see I have had some time on my hands today to post .

This is yellow twist bud . Left of the picture is the trash , middle is mid stalk far right is red tips . .

This is Florida Sumatra . last years crop . I am trying to get it down and baled by myself . I left it hanging so the color would get better , Ting of green in the leaves last fall .Leaves are small but makes a good cigar .

 

[larryccf]

if you don't mind me asking, how many acres of tobacco do you plant each year?

 

[webmost]

It'd be nice if BigBonner built a website listing all the blends he has (two of the samples weren't on the list at the beginning of this thread), with pix of the different leaves

For what it's worth

That's what I told him years ago. You guys tell him. I started a site for him at thetobaccobutcher.com, but he never finished it off with info. This is how business gets done these days. Gotta put pics and prices of your baccy on the innerwebz. Maybe you can convince him.

Square guy, lives on a beautiful rancho in a beautiful state, loves his work, and gives you a tremendous deal.

 

[RyanM22]

That's what I told him years ago. You guys tell him. I started a site for him at thetobaccobutcher.com, but he never finished it off with info. This is how business gets done these days. Gotta put pics and prices of your baccy on the innerwebz. Maybe you can convince him.

Square guy, lives on a beautiful rancho in a beautiful state, loves his work, and gives you a tremendous deal.

This isn't false!

 

[deluxestogie]

Firearms discussion moved to here: http://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/7571-Custom-Firearms

Bob

 

[burge]

It's all good stuff are the yellow Virginia and the orange yellow the same Virginia seed? The orange is quite a bit stronger and good.

 

[burge]

If you grow leaf, you know that there is indeed a fair amount of truly trashy leaf. Some is ugly, but fit to smoke. Some is awful, and only fit for composting.

Bob

Thanks Bob you know what I mean some leaf that is considered trash to some is just not perfect but smokable.

 

[deluxestogie]

There is some debate about the cause of flue-cured Virginia varying from lemon to deep orange-red. Some have attributed this to differences in the flue-curing regimen (hotter, longer, etc.). My fairly limited experience with actually flue-curing leaf is based on always running the very same regimen on all leaf, once it has adequately "yellowed". My interpretation is that most if not all of the differences are mostly the result of only three factors: the specific variety of flue-cure leaf (there are scores of different ones), the seasonal weather for a specific crop, and the stalk position from which the leaf is primed.

Within a specific Virginia variety:

• lower leaf is thinner than higher leaf
• lower leaf flue-cures to a lighter shade of yellow than does higher leaf
• lower leaf contains less nicotine than higher leaf
• sweetness is dependent on many other factors (stalk position, seasonal weather, degree of ripeness at priming, etc.)

The leaf for each flue-cure batch does need to be from a similar priming level on the stalk, and needs to be of a similar degree of ripeness--in order to get consistent curing. So early primings are flue-cured in a different batch from later primings.

Bob

 

[BigBonner]

if you don't mind me asking, how many acres of tobacco do you plant each year?

I would grow 55 to 60 acres of burley tobacco from 1993 to 2009 . In 2011 I was cut by big tobacco down to 25 acres . In 2014 I and most farmers here quit growing for big tobacco Phillip Morris cut out all farmer contracts . They are now buying tobacco from other countries and cut USA burley farmers almost completely out . R.J. Reynolds is still buying but only from a few farmers .

Morris started buying through a sub contractor for their USA tobacco purchases . This was to get any liability off their shoulders with farmers laborers . GAP Tobacco Training is training that all tobacco farmers who sold tobacco had to take in order to sell tobacco . Government was sticking their nose into farms and farm worker treatment . Gov was claiming workers was not getting paid , some say that farmers was working children under age . Some farmers was fined large amounts of money because some workers that was questioned by the Gov said they did not get paid .
I only use 8 to 10 workers plus me , my son , at a time and never had any problems . I paid the cash and when we eat lunch we sat at my table with me eating .

I am growing a garden size tobacco crop now at around 3.5 acres of mixed varieties . No hired help yet , but may have to find me a couple of workers to help this year .

I do miss growing a large crop but at the cheap prices being paid , farmers could not make any profits .