Tobaccofieldsforever 2021 Grow Log

[Tobaccofieldsforever]

Of course. And so have you. And so has every other tobacco user. Mold is not only ubiquitous, it can be analytically detected in damn near every tobacco product and tobacco commodity everywhere. It is often dismissed in tobacconists' humidors with the mythology of "plume".

As with the food you eat, eliminate the obvious mold.

Bob

Ok, thank you. I have just built up a fear of mold on tobacco by spending time on other tobacco forums where, at the site of mold, the tobacconist is inclined to burn his entire house down and move on…haha. Seriously though, I don’t know how many times I have read that if you find mold in any tobacco destroy the container and tobacco alike…preferably by means of fire. It seemed like a bit much to me but I thought that was what was to be done. I still have the jar and tobacco but also went and picked up another pound of basma c4 (only 14 pounds left in stock!!). On another note…are you claiming plume is a myth??!! Please expand upon this statement if you don’t mind because I have had a similar assumption myself.

 

[deluxestogie]

Moldy tobacco pucks

Hello, If the attached picture is visible I hope. The green stuff around the edges looks like mold to me, these pucks I'd made definitely smell moldy. Is that white stuff on top possibly plume? They have an initial beef jerky smell which is wonderful before noxious mold. I admit I've been...

fairtradetobacco.com

 

[Tobaccofieldsforever]

Out of curiosity, is tobacco seed considered a tobacco product when being sold? Is it like lamina (must remain unprocessed to legally be sold without a license) which would translate to left in the pod I assume…?

 

[deluxestogie]

Incorrect. Seed that is sold must be removed from the pod, and thoroughly cleaned of any remaining chaff.

Bob

 

[Knucklehead]

Out of curiosity, is tobacco seed considered a tobacco product when being sold? Is it like lamina (must remain unprocessed to legally be sold without a license) which would translate to left in the pod I assume…?

Incorrect. Seed that is sold must be removed from the pod, and thoroughly cleaned of any remaining chaff.

Bob

This is especially true in regards to import/export. Countries are concerned about pests/plant diseases contained within the chaff. They will reject dirty seed. It’s a good practice. The Forest Service frowns on taking your own firewood to a campsite due to pest/diseases that can be introduced to a new area.

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[skychaser]

This is especially true in regards to import/export. Countries are concerned about pests/plant diseases contained within the chaff. They will reject dirty seed. It’s a good practice.

Most countries allow individuals to import small amounts of seed for personal use. (a few grams) The regulations are extremely vague as to what consitiutes personal use or is for commercial use. It's left to the recieving customs agent to interpret the regs. It needs defining! Anything that might be considered commercial quantities requires a phyto-sanitary inspection be done by the USDA prior to shipping for weed seed, soil, or other foreign material. This costs me $38 per test and about 3 hours time to get the inspection and necessary paperwork done. I also get a field inspection done every year during the active growing season for bacteria and viruses by the USDA so I can be certified virus free for export. I include a copy of the feild inspection report with every commercial order. Some countries require it, most don't. Very few things can be transmitted by seed. But they change these field inspection regs frequently back and forth in what seems to me to be at whim, so I always get it done just to be sure. I have never had a virus or bacteria on my tobacco.

Nearly everyone who buys seed of any kind for resale wants germination tests done. There are federal minimum standards that are required for germination for each type of seed that all seed sellers must meet. Every state has it's own regulations for seed re-sellers too. Some want both germ tests and purity tests done. A purity test is similar to a phyto-sanitary inspection, but also includes what percent of the total sample is chaff. A purity test requires a minimum 5 grams of seed to be submitted. And some states also require seed re-sellers to retest their entire inventory each year. A lot of time and money is spent on these tests and bureaucratic butt kissing.

 

[Brown Thumb]

I throw out anything with mold on it.
I have thrown out at least 50 pounds of tobacco over the years. I have like 3 bags under my workbench to be thrown out

 

[Oldfella]

I throw out anything with mold on it.
I have thrown out at least 50 pounds of tobacco over the years. I have like 3 bags under my workbench to be thrown out

How come you have so many mold problems? Are you storing it in to higher case? Seems a shame, all that work and you have to chuck it out.
Oldfella

 

[deluxestogie]

A little bit discarded every year adds up to a lot of pounds in retrospect.

Bob

 

[Homegrowngoodnes]

But not to discard it and potentially ruin more of the crop...

 

[Brown Thumb]

How come you have so many mold problems? Are you storing it in to higher case? Seems a shame, all that work and you have to chuck it out.
Oldfella

I have grown a lot of tobacco over the years.
Storage has taught me a lot,
It still bites me in the butt from time to time.
Zip lock Plastic bags will transfer condensation from concrete.
I shred then bag and a litte too high case will bite you.
I store in blue plastic totes that fit x amount of bags and all are good but one?
I grew around 500 plants this yr so to lose a few bags to mold is a big deal but happens when you process this much with little time to do it.
Normally I grow 1000.
It hung in my garage/ wood shop and everything comes to a stop when leaf is hung, no sawdust or exhaust fumes from cars or 4 wheelers ect. When it is hanging. So it is processed as fast as possible when cured.

 

[Tobaccofieldsforever]

I have grown a lot of tobacco over the years.
Storage has taught me a lot,
It still bites me in the butt from time to time.
Zip lock Plastic bags will transfer condensation from concrete.
I shred then bag and a litte too high case will bite you.
I store in blue plastic totes that fit x amount of bags and all are good but one?
I grew around 500 plants this yr so to lose a few bags to mold is a big deal but happens when you process this much with little time to do it.
Normally I grow 1000.
It hung in my garage/ wood shop and everything comes to a stop when leaf is hung, no sawdust or exhaust fumes from cars or 4 wheelers ect. When it is hanging. So it is processed as fast as possible when cured.

I store everything in sealed mason jars. This is actually the first storage mold problem I have ever had. This particular jar was only about 6 months old. I don’t know what I was thinking when I did it, but it was stored at very high case! I’m actually surprised it took this long and the issue was so small. The case it was stored in shouldve merited thick white mold all through it but I only got a couple/few spots of blue gray mold through the whole thing. It is kept in a dehumidified environment at about 71 degrees F. It is just my personal preference to use jars vs plastic for storage. The idea of plastic and tobacco just rubs me the wrong way In general.

 

[Tobaccofieldsforever]

I was curious if anyone has ever grown any of the ornamental tobacco varieties offered by north wood? Jasmine looks interesting as a decorative plant.

 

[Cray Squirrel]

I've grown and sold a lot of ornamental nicotianas over the years. Not a big seller like petunias, geraniums etc bit always grew 1500 to 2,000 plants a year. Not like petunias or pansies/violas where I could grow and sell 75,000 each of them and sell out by mid June every year.
The flower colors arent that huge, vibrant and showy as most annual bedding. Different seed companies would try to improve the germ lines but nothing heart stopping ever came of it. The lowly vegetable plants, especially the hybrid tomatoes were one if the best profit items.

 

[deluxestogie]

A number of forum members have grown Jasmine, and have said that the aroma is delightful. My choice for decorative tobacco is potted Orientals, which are columnar, range from 3 to 4', and put on a lovely blossom display. And...traditionally, they are not topped. Most have familiar, pink blossoms, but a few, like Balikesir can be striking, and a great attractant to hummingbirds. [Once an Oriental has expended its blossoms, you can always stalk-cut the plant, and sun-cure it.] Northwood Seeds does carry Balikesir.

Bob

 

[Cray Squirrel]

I did grow some of the Red Russian bit gave it away as transplants to friends. Glad I did. They said it was an aphid magnet. What's the book on Balikesir?

 

[deluxestogie]

Book?

 

[Cray Squirrel]

Book?

The particulars..

 

[deluxestogie]

From my 2012 grow:



Bob

 

[Cray Squirrel]

What's the main use filler?
Btw My little yellow yielded 3.7 oz/ plant. 105 grams. Very thick, heavy leaf and super sticky. After 10 days in the smoke it was really nicely colored and had lost the stickiness.