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A Kiln, Tobacco, the Process, and Why

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For most electrical gadgets (motors, filaments, glowing phosphors, heaters), the most stressful times are when electrical current is initially applied, because of the alteration of resistance with temp. So the tighter the hysteresis (differential between set point and minimum allowed), the more frequent the max stress, and the shorter the lifespan of the device. This is usually only a minor consideration.

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For most electrical gadgets (motors, filaments, glowing phosphors, heaters), the most stressful times are when electrical current is initially applied, because of the alteration of resistance with temp. So the tighter the hysteresis (differential between set point and minimum allowed), the more frequent the max stress, and the shorter the lifespan of the device. This is usually only a minor consideration.

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I haven't sat down and timed the cycles. I've got 4" thick foam and it's only running on 80W, but I suppose 123° with a 2° differential would be a significant improvement.
 

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Hello guys. I have such a situation. I fermented Cuban criollo at 120 degrees f for more than two months. 3 months have passed since the fermentation. The lower part of the leaf smells good.sweet flavour.but the top part does not. Can you recommend something?Maybe more fermentation?
 

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I Store them in cellophane.humidityis about 85%.maybe excess moisture is the reason?
 

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If you could describe your fermentation technique in detail, and explain the current appearance, odor and storage of your leaf, perhaps we could provide a helpful opinion. Photos of your leaf would help.

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I fermented at 120 degrees. Humidity about 85. Once a week I was taking them from cellophane Then I moistened them again and continue the fermentation. So for about 10 weeks.i also have bezuki and Havana long leaf Which has a pleasant aroma.but Cuban criollo.broadleaf and Havana 2000 does not.
 

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When I took it out from the kiln and opened the cellophane The smell was very strong.maybe ammonia??the lower part of the leaf (not the lower leaf from the plant),the thinner part of this leaf has normal flavour. but the top of this leaf ,which is thicker,does not.
 

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Although the several varieties of Criollo (Cuba) that I have grown may be different from yours, I found that all of them required a rest period of many months (6 to 18) after kilning, before I was happy with them. This, compared to my Corojo 99 (Cuba), which is usually wonderful after two or three weeks of rest beyond kilning.

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Any chance we can get to see the. Elesware?
Unlikely. @AmaxB posted that a decade ago, and has not been active on the forum for the past 7½ years.

Welcome to the forum, @Smokinstags. Feel free to introduce yourself in the Introduce Yourself forum. Do read the New Growers' FAQ, and scan through the topics in our Index of Key Forum Threads. Both are linked in the menu bar.

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Question: If i take a filler tobacco from WLT and kiln it for 6-8 weeks at 52 degrees C, does that translate to further aging the tobacco by a couple years ?
 

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does that translate to further aging the tobacco by a couple years ?
The cigar tobacco from WLT is already well aged. Kilning it may or may not produce a noticeable change. Keep in mind that ageing is not a linear process. Most of the breakdown of carbs and proteins occurs early in the process. Prolonged aging can allow subtle alterations in some of the volatile constituents that add to aroma.

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Only getting to the end of the first page, I'm starting to see that my problem is the overloading of knowledge.
For me, I need a very simple set of instructions with nice big photos to help me understand!

For example, I see there's a plastic tub with tobacco in it, but then AmaxB mention's heat control and I'm thinking "do you have an entire room that you put the tub(s) into, from which you control & spread the heat? Or perhaps a fan heater? The mention of a griddle doesn't make sense to me when combined with a plastic tub?"

The level of technical information on this site is amazing, but overwhelming!!!
...I think I need another coffee!
 

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Only getting to the end of the first page, I'm starting to see that my problem is the overloading of knowledge.
For me, I need a very simple set of instructions with nice big photos to help me understand!

For example, I see there's a plastic tub with tobacco in it, but then AmaxB mention's heat control and I'm thinking "do you have an entire room that you put the tub(s) into, from which you control & spread the heat? Or perhaps a fan heater? The mention of a griddle doesn't make sense to me when combined with a plastic tub?"

The level of technical information on this site is amazing, but overwhelming!!!
...I think I need another coffee!
I was thinking the same thing. I couldn't tell what was meant by the griddle. Is it inside the tub? Is it in the room? Are there holes in the tub and the tub is elevated over the griddle so the heat rises but doesn't touch the tub?

Anyone who has done this, your experience and clarifications would be most welcomed!
 

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Anyone who has done this, your experience
I have built a few different boxes / cabinets that are large enough to hang my small crop. Currently have a small cabinet made from one sheet of styrofoam insulation. The tobacco hangs with woods slats I have mounted inside the top of the cabinet. In the bottom I have a heat source. Have used an oil filled water heater, lightbulbs, and crock pot. The crockpot has an advantage of warming up water to keep humidity in the box high. Currently, I just have a heat lamp pointed at a pot of water. Lastly you need a thermostat to control the heat source. In the past I used a hot water heater electric thermostat that I set over a couple days with a thermometer to help me see what temps inside the box were. Currently I am using some home automation sensors and equipment because I had it already all setup for a past project. Hope this helps.
 
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