Effects of nicotine from chewing raw tobacco plants?

[Socc726]

First time grower. I have been plucking off tobacco leaves (virginia gold leaf) rolling them up and putting them in my mouth to chew on as i do yard work. I think i feel some effect come over me after 5 mins or so, but it is so subtle that I doubt anyone would even notice and I'm not sure if it isn't just placebo. Compared to the buzz you get when you dip or smoke a cigarette the raw leaf buzz is nonexistant.

Now I think some sort of an effect does happen with the raw leaf. It may be helping with focus or just generally keeping me occupied while doing tasks - I think it gets my mind off of things in a very subtle way. But it doesn't generate a euphoric buzz that the first hit of a cigarette will in the morning. I liken the effect more to chewing Redman vs spitting long-cut dip.

So I'm wondering the following and would love if anyone had some answers:

Can you smoke raw uncured leaf and get nicotine buzz effects? If so how much would one have to smoke before feeling a heady buzz?

Can you eat/chew/spit raw uncured leaf and get nicotine buzz effects? If so how much would one have to consume before feeling a heady buzz?

Do the leaves have to get to a certain stage in the growth cycle before there is enough nicotine content to feel a buzz? (These leaves are about 45 days old - some are pretty big, but the ones i chew are the size of a common indoor plant leaf)

Why does Redman not have as strong of a nicotine buzz as compared to a pinch of skoal? Is it because the skoal cuts up the lip to allow nicotine in faster/more direct? or does skoal have more concentrated/higher nicotine levels?

After one gets use to the general plant sour taste I can see this being a much more organic way of consuming nicotine.

Best,
Sam

 

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[Knucklehead]

First time grower. I have been plucking off tobacco leaves (virginia gold leaf) rolling them up and putting them in my mouth to chew on as i do yard work. I think i feel some effect come over me after 5 mins or so, but it is so subtle that I doubt anyone would even notice and I'm not sure if it isn't just placebo. Compared to the buzz you get when you dip or smoke a cigarette the raw leaf buzz is nonexistant.

Now I think some sort of an effect does happen with the raw leaf. It may be helping with focus or just generally keeping me occupied while doing tasks - I think it gets my mind off of things in a very subtle way. But it doesn't generate a euphoric buzz that the first hit of a cigarette will in the morning. I liken the effect more to chewing Redman vs spitting long-cut dip.

So I'm wondering the following and would love if anyone had some answers:

Can you smoke raw uncured leaf and get nicotine buzz effects? If so how much would one have to smoke before feeling a heady buzz?

Can you eat/chew/spit raw uncured leaf and get nicotine buzz effects? If so how much would one have to consume before feeling a heady buzz?

Do the leaves have to get to a certain stage in the growth cycle before there is enough nicotine content to feel a buzz? (These leaves are about 45 days old - some are pretty big, but the ones i chew are the size of a common indoor plant leaf)

Why does Redman not have as strong of a nicotine buzz as compared to a pinch of skoal? Is it because the skoal cuts up the lip to allow nicotine in faster/more direct? or does skoal have more concentrated/higher nicotine levels?

After one gets use to the general plant sour taste I can see this being a much more organic way of consuming nicotine.

Best,
Sam

Are you talking about raw green leaves or leaves that have browned on the stalk?

Nicotine poisoning - Wikipedia

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Green Tobacco Sickness - Wikipedia

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[johnny108]

First time grower. I have been plucking off tobacco leaves (virginia gold leaf) rolling them up and putting them in my mouth to chew on as i do yard work. I think i feel some effect come over me after 5 mins or so, but it is so subtle that I doubt anyone would even notice and I'm not sure if it isn't just placebo. Compared to the buzz you get when you dip or smoke a cigarette the raw leaf buzz is nonexistant.

Now I think some sort of an effect does happen with the raw leaf. It may be helping with focus or just generally keeping me occupied while doing tasks - I think it gets my mind off of things in a very subtle way. But it doesn't generate a euphoric buzz that the first hit of a cigarette will in the morning. I liken the effect more to chewing Redman vs spitting long-cut dip.

So I'm wondering the following and would love if anyone had some answers:

Can you smoke raw uncured leaf and get nicotine buzz effects? If so how much would one have to smoke before feeling a heady buzz?

Can you eat/chew/spit raw uncured leaf and get nicotine buzz effects? If so how much would one have to consume before feeling a heady buzz?

Do the leaves have to get to a certain stage in the growth cycle before there is enough nicotine content to feel a buzz? (These leaves are about 45 days old - some are pretty big, but the ones i chew are the size of a common indoor plant leaf)

Why does Redman not have as strong of a nicotine buzz as compared to a pinch of skoal? Is it because the skoal cuts up the lip to allow nicotine in faster/more direct? or does skoal have more concentrated/higher nicotine levels?

After one gets use to the general plant sour taste I can see this being a much more organic way of consuming nicotine.

Best,
Sam

You would have to adjust the ph of the leaf with an alkaline to get the “rush” like effect from any tobacco leaf- that is what commercial chewing tobacco does. Sodium or potassium carbonate are the most common.
It’s possible Redman doesn’t adjust th Ph of their product, or uses a weaker leaf, or both.
The “buzz” is caused more by the speed of absorption, rather than by the total amount- again: Ph modification is required to make the leaf alkaline for this. This has been my experience.
Leaves usually need to come from a plant that has been topped and suckered and allowed to mature for at least 2 weeks, in order to let the plant increase the nicotine.
The plant is using the nicotine as a defense: “something just ate my flowers, better be more poisonous so I can reproduce!”