End of the line for Cibao Valley tobaccos

[FmGrowit]

Unfortunately, we've had some serious issues with this supplier and due to our inability to resolve these issues, the Cibao Valley line of tobaccos will be discontinued. If there is anything you like in the line, I'd suggest getting some now because we will not be restocking anything from this supplier.

 

[SlamFire]

In addition to the CV filler line, are any of your wrappers sourced from this supplier and thus would be affected by this change?

 

[FmGrowit]

In addition to the CV filler line, are any of your wrappers sourced from this supplier and thus would be affected by this change?

The wrapper/binder from CV are...Vuelta Abajo binder and CV PA binder. Many of the wrappers in stock now are older/last bale stock. The advantage of being a smaller buyer is I don't need the same consistency large manufacturers do, so leftover older (well-aged) bales are what I look for. The disadvantage in this is when that leaf is gone, it can not be replaced. That is why I always say..."If you find something you really like, buy it, because it might not be available the next time you order. "

 

[AromatiX]

Wow, that is a lot of tobacco, are you looking into different suppliers to Replace these tobaccos?

 

[deluxestogie]

I just had a look at the WLT cigar tobacco offerings today:

CIBAO VALLEY

1. CV PA Broadleaf Seco
2. Cibao Valley Rene Viso
3. Cibao Valley Rene Seco
4. Cibao Valley Rene Ligero
5. CV Black Ligero
6. CV PA Broadleaf Ligero
7. CV PA Broadleaf Viso
8. Pelo d’Oro Ligero
9. Pelo d’Oro Seco
10. Cibao Valley Corojo Ligero
11. Cibao Valley Corojo Viso
12. Cibao Valley Criollo 98 Ligero
13. CV Corojo 2006 Seco
14. Cibao Valley Vuelta Abajo Hab. Ligero
15. Cibao Valley Dominican Seco
16. Cibao Valley Criollo 98 Seco
17. Cibao Valley Dominican Olor Ligero
18. T-13 Dominican Criollo 98/Piloto Viso
19. CV PA Binder
20. CV Corojo Oscuro Cigar Wrapper

TRADITIONAL

1. ASP Nicaragua Ligero
2. Paraguay Flojo Africa Ligero
3. Paraguay Flojo Africa Viso
4. Peru Ligero
5. Peru Viso
6. Corojo 99 Filler Tobacco Viso
7. Corojo 99 Filler Tobacco, Ligero
8. Criollo 98 Seco
9. Criollo 98 Viso
10. Criollo 98 Ligero
11. Nicaragua Condega Seco
12. Nicaragua Condega Viso
13. Nicaragua Condega Ligero
14. Paraguay Flojo Africa Seco
15. Piloto Ligero
16. Piloto Seco
17. Piloto Viso
18. San Vicente Ligero
19. Ecuador Bronceado Wrapper
20. Ecuador Corona Wrapper
21. Ecuador Los Rios Wrapper
22. Hab. 92 wrapper
23. Dominican Olor Wrapper
24. Ecuador Cameroon Wrapper
25. Vuelta Abajo Binder
26. Criollo 98 Wrapper
27. CT Shade Leaf 2006
28. Dominican Olor Cigar Binder
29. Ecuador CT Shade Cigar Wrapper
30. Ecuador Maduro Wrapper
31. Hab. 2000 Wrapper
32. Hab. Oscuro Wrapper
33. PA Binder
34. San Andres Wrapper
35. Sumatra Cigar Binder

I have to smile, remembering the days when Don could offer only a handful of fillers, and a few wrappers. (And there was the time we went in as a group, to purchase an entire bale of something or other—maybe Nicaraguan viso.) I have not listed the cigarette and pipe tobacco offerings today.

Bob

 

[SlamFire]

Thank you, Bob... Your contribution certainly adds some perspective to this change. While we're on this topic - the Habano 92' wrapper is fantastic - I have looked high and low for seeds to grow this variety - am I correct in saying that this strain is no longer grown?

 

[deluxestogie]

am I correct in saying that this strain is no longer grown?

Habano 92 is a specific varietal grown in Quilalí, Nicaragua, about 40 miles northeast of Esteli.

Bob

 

[SlamFire]

Habano 92 is a specific varietal grown in Quilalí, Nicaragua, about 40 miles northeast of Esteli.

Bob

A huge thank you for this information Bob! I searched high and low for information on this tobacco and found little of value. Interestingly, an internet search for Habano 92' by itself only yields (precious little) info on the Cuban Habano 92' - but linking the search with Quilalí Nicaragua, actually yields meaningful results. The Southern Draw Cedrus is one of only a handful of cigars using this tobacco. Considering that this is a new varietal - I give myself about a 0% chance of obtaining any seed....

 

[deluxestogie]

Your soil isn't going to be the volcanic soil of Nicaragua, and your seasonal weather won't be the same. I would suggest, as a replacement, growing one of the following:

• Corojo 99
• Criollo 98
• Vuelta Abajo

They will be different from the commercial Habano 92, but so would your own, home-grown Habano 92 (if you made the quick trip down to Nicaragua, to snatch some seed).

Bob