Ray's Condensed 2012 First Grow

[Rayshields]

I thought I'd put some pictures on the forum so I'd have a record of my first attempt so far.


A box full of Babies that were ACCIDENTALLY started in the starter mix you are recommending.

A deck full of cups got very time consuming carrying them into the porch for every rain or cool evening.


A trailer load of Teenagers got pushed into and out of the garage every night.

One patch full of Young Adults and not a weed or blade of grass in sight due to the ground being too wet when I tilled it and hardly any rain since.

So what is wrong with my Burley turning yellow before seed pods come up? Too dry? Short on Nitrogen? Normal for Burley? Note the Virginia Bright Leaf planted behind the Burley.

 

[leverhead]

Don't quote me, but I think Burleys need more nitrogen than the Virginias. Google "Burley production Guide" and the same for "Flue Cured" and look at Nitrogen requirements in Lbs/acre. Burleys seem to get 4 times as much Nitrogen.

 

[Chicken]

the burley will yellow, ive actually got some hanging colour curing right now,

i must say,,, im very impressed, at your dedication to your grow, your like me,

i like to start my plants in thier own pot's, and let them get bigger, before placing them out,,

and you have a whole baccy patch, sitting in them cups. A BIG BACCY PATCH,

props to you,,, looks excellent,

> odd looking soil though, it looks like little rocks, but thats the beauty of the web, we grow,

so we see all types of soil, im just used to loose dirt,,,,

 

[deluxestogie]

The white-stemmed burleys that I have grown all seem yellower than other varieties, even as seedlings. I would say not to worry, if they are growing normally otherwise. Yellow leaf never cures green. As I write this, both my Harrow Velvet and Golden Burley show yellowish lower leaves.

Bob

 

[BarG]

That is one hell of a grow Ray, very impressive. Your seed starts look much better than mine did, although they did finaly improve. It looks like you must have tilled as you say while still muddy. That will cause the clumps. My new tiller has a forward tine till also which I use after rear tine tilling and manicures and levels the soil. I hope you get some rain soon.

Tim

You may have to draw you a rain turtle in the dirt.

 

[Chicken]

That is one hell of a grow Ray, very impressive. Your seed starts look much better than mine did, although they did finaly improve. It looks like you must have tilled as you say while still muddy. That will cause the clumps. My new tiller has a forward tine till also which I use after rear tine tilling and manicures and levels the soil. I hope you get some rain soon.

Tim

You may have to draw you a rain turtle in the dirt.

sounds like a impressive tiller you got there,,,,i got acess to a good tiller also,

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By chickenhawk434 at 2012-05-21

 

[BarG]

I think I like yours better.

 

[Rayshields]

I put some ammonium nitrate mixed with water (1/2 cup for 46% N per 5 gallons of water) on my Burley and waited a few days to see if the color changed. It didn't. So I put some side dressing of ammonium nitrate on and watered it in...still no color change. It seems that it may be some different soil conditions in certain spots as the Black Mammoth in adjoining rows is showing the same yellowing of the lower leaves...mostly hasn't headed yet. I think some of this is due to the very hot dry weather we are still having.

I sprayed BT on two times about a week apart. I thought since we have had such little rain that I didn't need to respray for a while. I honestly had not seen one hornworm...until this morning. Man do I have hornworms! Little tiny dudes, most smaller than the lead in a pencil. I got about one third of the patch sprayed this morning before I had to rush off to a meeting. It is 99F right now and I don't think the spray would be good on the plants when it is this hot. As soon as the shade starts across the patch I will be back spraying. I am hoping to see a lot of little green things dangling from this mornings spray.

 

[BigBonner]

I put some ammonium nitrate mixed with water (1/2 cup for 46% N per 5 gallons of water) on my Burley and waited a few days to see if the color changed. It didn't. So I put some side dressing of ammonium nitrate on and watered it in...still no color change. It seems that it may be some different soil conditions in certain spots as the Black Mammoth in adjoining rows is showing the same yellowing of the lower leaves...mostly hasn't headed yet. I think some of this is due to the very hot dry weather we are still having.

I sprayed BT on two times about a week apart. I thought since we have had such little rain that I didn't need to respray for a while. I honestly had not seen one hornworm...until this morning. Man do I have hornworms! Little tiny dudes, most smaller than the lead in a pencil. I got about one third of the patch sprayed this morning before I had to rush off to a meeting. It is 99F right now and I don't think the spray would be good on the plants when it is this hot. As soon as the shade starts across the patch I will be back spraying. I am hoping to see a lot of little green things dangling from this mornings spray.

Hot dry weather will yellow tobacco up . Be carefull with the nitrate it will burn the plants up . 1.30 ounces per plant is what my nitrate needs are .

 

[Chicken]

that B.T. dont kill immediatlly,,, give it 3 days

 

[Rayshields]

I used 60 pounds on 500 plants, or about .9 oz per plant. If they burn up, it will probably be the heat and lack of water. My 100 gallon stock tank that I am letting set 24 hours to get rid of the chlorine doesn't go very far.

 

[Grundle]

sounds like a impressive tiller you got there,,,,i got acess to a good tiller also,

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By chickenhawk434 at 2012-05-21

Is that a swamp boat I see back there?

 

[Rayshields]

that B.T. dont kill immediatlly,,, give it 3 days

I am not saying that this mornings spray has killed the hornworms...it might have been carry over from previous sprayings, but a bunch of those little green fellers are dead this evening.

 

[indianjoe]

Them hanging dead fellers are a welcome sight

 

[Chicken]

Is that a swamp boat I see back there?

you know it playah,,,,

when we go fishing,,, you HEAR US COMING <

 

[Rayshields]

Praise God. It rained over 2 inches and is 72F. It hasn't rained an inch at one time since April. The cracks in the ground are still wide, but my tomatoes and tobacco should really be refreshed. It came about 5 days too late for the corn, but the soybeans should be okay. BigBonner I hope you get some of this. It came from the Southeast which is rare for us. It is still raining...Amen.

 

[LeftyRighty]

Ray...... Lucky you ! It's been north & south of me - haven't got a drop yet.

 

[Rayshields]

I ended up with 2.6 inches of rain today. The folks 3 miles south got half an inch. The clods that I have had in the patch since it was planted are gone.

View attachment 1271BigBonner, is the Burley in the left row getting close to ready to harvest?



Another picture of some of the Burley.
View attachment 1272

From the other end of the patch.

 

[BigBonner]

Ray

Thats some fine looking tobacco .It also looks like you topped to a good size leaf .
My tobacco is still ankle high . Some has died from 103 and 105 degree heat and no rain since it was planted and it was dry when I planted the tobacco .

Good news , today I recieved a hair over 1 inch of rain . The temperatures are supposed to cool down in the upper 80's .

 

[Grundle]

All that rain missed me and went up your way Ray. It is good to have the cooler temperatures though. There is a noticeable difference in my plants.