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My seedlings are coming along just fine ((golden burley, Prilep, Virginia gold, Costello, African red,MD 609, my hybrid, harrow velvet, a hybrid my dad wanted me to make and grow for him (buckeye red x yellow twist bud F1) buckeye red)). My biggest concern right now is my hardy kiwi plant seems to not be doing well. Anyone have any experience with these? The fig is doing quite well on the other hand…6946004C-A1A3-4AD6-8358-80923DBA1970.jpegD0A39C40-2C82-47AA-8951-F89AF2D8ADF3.jpeg
 

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I put my flats outside today to begin the hardening off process. My orientals keep flopping over. I don’t recall this being an issue before. Thinking about staking them otherwise I assume they will start to grow in undesirable ways. Anybody else encounter this issue?
 

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How long were they outside? Any leaves turn white on the edges?
Did they stand back up when you moved them into the shade?
How are you watering them now?
Were they exposed to air currents prior to now?

I had some floppy Prilep last year. Just soldier on for the next two weeks then snip off the bottom seed leaves plus one or two bottom leaves then bury the seedlings deeper than the current root ball. That will help them stand on their own.

You may also give three or so a haircut to relieve some weight and see if that helps them stand up.
 

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I apologize for not being very clear. The stalk is quite strong it is just tall and has not anchored itself into the soil enough I guess…I bottom water and this is the first time they have been subjected to any wind. They get plenty of water…a bit too much based on the mold/algae forming on top of soil…see picture 23D24885-7BEB-48B1-97BF-3E26ABAA26EB.jpeg
Those were all flipped over but I stood them up by hand. They grew kind of vertically across the top of the soil before growing upwards. Not much I can do I guess. I don’t want to drive a popsicle stick into the dirt to stake them and break a bunch of roots. My orientals have always been a bit too heavy but this seems to be next level…
 

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They look the same as my Prilep last year. I watered when the soil was less moist, rather than dry. Which was a mistake. I overwatered, even knowing better. They should dry out between waterings. When I transplanted, the root ball was mostly in the upper half of the soil in the cells, rather than filling the cell with roots. If they always have moisture, the roots have no need to put down deeper roots in search for moisture. I did better this year. My Prilep stalk were also tiny right at soil level and just flopped around and had no strength. Not positive why the stalk looked like that but I suspect too much water and not enough air current resistence. Moving them outside in warm but windy days (on a shady porch to avoid sunburn) forces the stalk to resist that air current and become stronger and tougher. A fan is a good substitute. (I suspect they also strengthen lateral roots) Clipping your leaves also strengthens the stalk because it triggers a defense mechanism against attack like a leaf eating insect. They strengthen the stalk and increase nicotine.

While hardening, stop the fertilizer and only water (straight water) when you see the leaf start to wilt. That is part of the hardening process, to help in turning over their care to Mother Nature.
At transplant, just snip off some of the lower leaves and bury the root and stalk deeper. They are going to be fine. They all look healthy.
 

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Pictured below is one of my flats. The front two (closest to camera) 6 packs are Costello negro. This is my first year ever growing it and I have had trouble. At first it didn’t want to germinate and now it just isn’t doing so well. I thought maybe shaded out? Does it not do well with cold nights? Literally every other tobacco variety I am growing is flourishing under the exact same conditions so I am at a loss…any ideas?91306F3C-8C7C-42A4-AB20-24D9E239960F.jpeg

Edit: I am growing two other bright leaf varieties that are doing quite well (African red and Virginia gold)
 

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Hmmm… never grown Costello but @skychaser grows Costello Negro for his own consumption as well as to sell seeds. IIRC it is one of his favorite strains together with African Red. Maybe he will chime in and give advice.

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Yes, I purchased the seeds from him, along with every other tobacco seed I have ever purchased. I’m sure he is exceptionally busy right now as we all likely are (I can’t claim to be quite as busy as skychaser likely is).
 
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Was the Costello always located on the end of the tray?
Did it always have problems or was doing okay and then went wonky?
Could it have been on the end of a tray and received too much sunlight while hardening or got too cold and it's location shielded the others?
I grew Costello about ten years ago but nothing really stood out except that it tasted really nice.
I'm at a loss also. It's weird looking. I would have leaned toward environmental if it was a tray by itself but being so close to the others is puzzling.
 

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In my 1020 seedling trays, the inserts always sit above a 1020 tray with holes, which in turn sits above a 1020 tray without holes. All of this then rests within a 1020 lattice tray. I water by adding it to the 1020 tray with holes. On occasion, due to variations in the fit of the trays, one corner (an insert 4-pack, in my case) will be situated slightly higher than those in the remainder of the tray, and that 4-pack's seedlings will be prone to wilting before any of the other seedlings in the tray.

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Was the Costello always located on the end of the tray?
Did it always have problems or was doing okay and then went wonky?
Could it have been on the end of a tray and received too much sunlight while hardening or got too cold and it's location shielded the others?
I grew Costello about ten years ago but nothing really stood out except that it tasted really nice.
I'm at a loss also. It's weird looking. I would have leaned toward environmental if it was a tray by itself but being so close to the others is puzzling.
It is puzzling. I thought for sure they got shaded out because they were doing well and then they weren’t but that doesn’t add up because they were on the outside of the tray on one of the trays and a row in on the other but both seemed to struggle in the same way. I made sure all my cells got ample water when bottom watering…just a mystery I guess.
 
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