Lieberman Design

[jParnell]

I do appreciate hand rolling cigars, but it's time consuming. After watching Bob build a home-made one with a plastic mat, I decided to try it with my own plastic map, just taping it to my cutting board and using a 3/4" dowel rod. I was amazed. I could roll in 1/10th of the time, and I could use my scraps to roll up quick-n-tasties with SO MUCH less hassle. So while I appreciate complete hand-rolling, for building up a stockpile to let rest for several months at a time, this will be my go-to.

Now, finding a Lieberman Machine for an affordable price is impossible. The cheapest I found was on etsy, a used one for $250. Wut.

So I set out to try to build one. Somehow, I was not able to find any blueprints myself. My Google-Fu failed me. So I decided to design my own.

I started in paint, and made a 2D not-to-scale diagram.



After that, went to SketchUp to build the full to-scale model.



After that, I just had to get my measurements. I estimate there's maybe $40 in materials here, and most of that will be in the mat.

Tools you'll need:
Table Saw
Miter Saw or belt sander (for the one piece with angles, if you think it's necessary. Looks better )
Router; or Chisels and Drill

Full gallery of 3D design as follows. Keep in mind, the depicted cigar in the collection tray is a 7x60. The first one also includes a banana, for scale. The base is 16" x 16" and the actual Lieberman working area is 16" x 12".

I also designed a way to adjust the size of the mat. You can turn the adjusting dowel to lengthen / shorten for your desired ring gauge and draw tightness.

Not included is hardware to pin the mat to the back board or to attach the mat to the adjusting dowel. I play to use brass eyelets and punch holes in the mat, then zip tie the mat to the dowel rod. Use wedges to hold the dowel in place.


Measurements gallery (hosted on Imgur since there's a 10 attachment limit)

Last but not least, the 3D file I used to build it. Requires SketchUp

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtxSNu8Ls9TZhpMIcWY_vyTvGFNikA

Let me know what you think and send pics if you build it!

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

There is a 3D printer at the University I go to. I wonder if I could use it to make your design.

 

[jParnell]

There is a 3D printer at the University I go to. I wonder if I could use it to make your design.

Biggest question is whether the printer bed is big enough to handle the 16"x16" base. I designed this to roll some big a** cigars, if needed/wanted. Also depends on whether the 3D printer can accept SKP files from SketchUp. If you need it converted to CAD or some other format, let me know and I'll get it posted.

A suggestion if you're going to 3D print: leave out the dowel rods, the mat, and all but 1 of the support posts in the middle of interior (I designed it to be wood and glue, so figured I needed the extra support). A unibody print job should be sturdy enough without the extra supports, and it'll cut down on the amount of plastic you use pretty significantly.

Let me know if you want me to edit it for you.

 

[jParnell]

There is a 3D printer at the University I go to. I wonder if I could use it to make your design.

Oof... I hope your university is significantly cheaper than Shapeways. I think I'll be making mine out wood



Also, here's a 3D Printable STL version if you'd like it

 

[MarcL]

Very nice! have you seen this thread? Cigar bunching with a mat. http://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/cigar-bunching-with-a-mat.6056/

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Biggest question is whether the printer bed is big enough to handle the 16"x16" base. I designed this to roll some big a** cigars, if needed/wanted. Also depends on whether the 3D printer can accept SKP files from SketchUp. If you need it converted to CAD or some other format, let me know and I'll get it posted.

A suggestion if you're going to 3D print: leave out the dowel rods, the mat, and all but 1 of the support posts in the middle of interior (I designed it to be wood and glue, so figured I needed the extra support). A unibody print job should be sturdy enough without the extra supports, and it'll cut down on the amount of plastic you use pretty significantly.

Let me know if you want me to edit it for you.

I'll take a look on Tuesday and find out what the files need to be and how big an object it can do.

 

[jParnell]

Very nice! have you seen this thread? Cigar bunching with a mat. http://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/cigar-bunching-with-a-mat.6056/

That was the very thread that showed Bob's "Plastic-WLT-Bag-and-Dowel" Lieberman video that inspired me to try it