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Deluxestogie Grow Log 2023

deluxestogie

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My grow for 2023 is looking like this—at the moment:

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Not a huge tobacco grow, but not nothing. I will start germination the first week of March, so I have two months to change my mind. After such a challenging bout of horrid weather, it's easy to look forward to working in the garden again.

Bob
 

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I need to get my plan together too. At my home I have about a 1/4 acre area that gets great sun and we grew corn in that area last year and then about another 1/4 acre that is not as sunny due to trees that really need to come down. Then about an hour away we have access to about 3 acres of sweet land to grown on with plenty of water use... but its an hour away. options options options. got to get plenty of veg in and grow tobacco (thinking kinda smallish on tobacco to see how it goes)
 

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Tobacco stems are a great source of potassium for your garden, 1-1/2 lbs per 100 ftsq.
I know things.
(Or I got a new book)

* here’s the book, listed by state. I think I have your state here. I’m not implying you need the info at this point, but you might find it interesting for $12

 
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Good approach for a 1st year grow. Go with sunny, and avoid tree root intrusion.

Bob
I was contemplating growing some shade leaf in containers along the property line where they would be in shade until about mid-afternoon. Containers to avoid the tree roots. Do you think that would work? I have some large plastic tubs that cattle feed comes in, maybe 20 or 25 gallons.
 

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CT Shade plants (grown in 40% shade tents in the Connecticut Valley) grow to over 10' tall, and require a wire from above to gradually wind around the growing stalk for support. Pot-grown plants (in my experience) tend to grow smaller, with smaller leaves, compared to sun-grown plants. I have no idea what you may get. Do begin a grow log for 2023 in our Grow Blogs forum.

Bob
 

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Long, Long Journey

This morning, I mailed my sister a copy of one of my books at my local post office. She is living 12 miles north of me. They predict it will arrive on Friday. That's 3 days to travel a total of 12 miles. Four miles a day. That's less than ¼ mile per hour.

"The average speed of a snail clocks in at around 0.03 mph, although a snail named Archie went nearly double that in 1995, setting the world record time at 2 minutes and 20 seconds." National Geographic

So USPS is proudly traveling 4 times the speed of Archie.

Bob
 

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I may or may not do that. I don't want to spread myself too thin. More likely in some future year when I already have built up a good stash of more conventionally grown leaf.
CT Shade plants (grown in 40% shade tents in the Connecticut Valley) grow to over 10' tall, and require a wire from above to gradually wind around the growing stalk for support. Pot-grown plants (in my experience) tend to grow smaller, with smaller leaves, compared to sun-grown plants. I have no idea what you may get. Do begin a grow log for 2023 in our Grow Blogs forum.

Bo
 

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Although I still have a number of unused 48-cell inserts for my 1020 trays, I needed to order more for this season. Since my 1020 trays with holes, and 1020 trays without holes are still mostly sound, I have re-used them for nearly a decade—disinfecting and washing them annually. I will re-use my supporting mesh trays, and toss all the well-used trays (with and without holes).

After scouring through my usual on-line sources for pots and trays, etc., Greenhouse Megastore again comes in with excellent prices and product in stock.

Bob
 

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I was contemplating growing some shade leaf in containers along the property line where they would be in shade until about mid-afternoon. Containers to avoid the tree roots. Do you think that would work? I have some large plastic tubs that cattle feed comes in, maybe 20 or 25 gallons.
I tried planting CT Shade right next to an 8' wooden fence for shade half the day, and much of it also got a couple hours more shade from the garage and some neighbor's trees. The plants were very weak and spindly, but put out a lot of suckers. I didn't do all that good with those plants. It wasn't a bust, I picked a lot of leaf, but no big beautiful wrappers. The plants like I said were not very stout and they got knocked down a lot, and I had as much stem growing along the ground as growing straight up. Otherwise it did well. I also planted CT Broadleaf, Criollo 98, and something else, I will think of it in a minute. Habano 2000. The two CT varieties looked almost identical. The other two looked different from the CT varieties but looked very similar to each other. All plants bore heavily, but best were the ones with more hours of sunlight.

Stretching out shade cloth wasn't gonna be a thing for me.

I set a few seedlings in big big planters and even one over two feet across wouldn't grow a plant as big as one grown in the ground. Don't get me wrong, it grows, but forget about getting any really big leaves, or a big harvest. Two were set up right next to the garage, on the north side, very shady. Meh. CT Shade, biggest leaves were maybe 15" long. Those planters are onion beds this year, and they are in the sun.
 

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I tried planting CT Shade right next to an 8' wooden fence for shade half the day, and much of it also got a couple hours more shade from the garage and some neighbor's trees. The plants were very weak and spindly, but put out a lot of suckers. I didn't do all that good with those plants. It wasn't a bust, I picked a lot of leaf, but no big beautiful wrappers. The plants like I said were not very stout and they got knocked down a lot, and I had as much stem growing along the ground as growing straight up. Otherwise it did well. I also planted CT Broadleaf, Criollo 98, and something else, I will think of it in a minute. Habano 2000. The two CT varieties looked almost identical. The other two looked different from the CT varieties but looked very similar to each other. All plants bore heavily, but best were the ones with more hours of sunlight.

Stretching out shade cloth wasn't gonna be a thing for me.

I set a few seedlings in big big planters and even one over two feet across wouldn't grow a plant as big as one grown in the ground. Don't get me wrong, it grows, but forget about getting any really big leaves, or a big harvest. Two were set up right next to the garage, on the north side, very shady. Meh. CT Shade, biggest leaves were maybe 15" long. Those planters are onion beds this year, and they are in the sun.
Sounds like it's not worth doing then, even as a lark.
 

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In the Dead of Winter

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Temp on my front porch at 2 pm today.

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Codger on my front porch at 2 pm today.

I should note that my Oshkosh-B'Gosh overalls are 52 years old, yet I am somehow 22 years older than the overalls. It's the new math.

Bob
Farmer Bob, I might need some coveralls in another 6 years.lol
 

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Is that for one month?!?!?
Yes. Old farmhouse. Electric heat. Electric stove. Electric clothes dryer. Electric well pump. Electric (LED) lighting. Electric tobacco kiln. I save up money in a grain silo during the late spring and summer, then siphon the bills into a dump truck to pay the electric bill during the bleaker part of the year. (Dripping my faucets overnight when the temp drops below about 15°F costs electricity.) My power company has just requested a rate increase from the state legislature.

Bob

EDIT: I should add that I have no water bill, no sewer bill, no garbage collection bill, and no gas bill.
 
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