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The Magic of Whole Leaf Tobacco

Guyrox

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Here is my testament to whole leaf tobacco. And warning about commercial tobaccos.

I have been smoking whole leaf tobacco for over a month, now. Since I started, I have never added any casing of any sort to the leaf. I have been smoking it as is.
I have not found it harsh, rough, etc. Mind you, I have not tried Burley leaf yet but if I put it in the oven for 10 minutes, it is not really processing it in the sense of adding a casing.
I have purchased: Ripe Virginia; Red Virginia; Izmir, Latakia; Perique; Dark Air Cured and Light Fire Cured.
I mentioned in my intro thread, as an update, how tasteful and pleasant smoking whole leaf has been compared to commercial tobaccos.
When I joined this forum, I wanted to try whole leaf as I had developed a severe intolerance to commercial tobacco. It plagued my mouth roof and gum line, and badly, to the point where I had to give up the pipe multiple times over the last 3 years.
This does not happen anymore since I switched to whole leaf. At worse, I had been getting a slight tingling and know to put the pipe aside for 10 minutes.
However, this does not happen often. The longer I smoke the whole leaf, the less often it has happened. I understand my mouth roof is not quite 100% healed, yet. But it's getting there.
I am the happiest camper there can be.
Whatever commercial manufacturers add, the result has ceased to be tobacco a long time ago!
I have tins of Peterson, Dunhill, Amphora, Davidoff, G, H & Co, Escudo and Mac Baren that have been opened for over 6 months and they are, incredibly, still very moist. Even if the tobacco feels a bit dry when I pinch it into a ball, it stays together.
That, my friends, is NOT tobacco. ;)
To be very frank, I feel I have been tricked by commercial manufacturers. Lied to.
The last few times I gave commercial tobacco a try, I baked the tin for 6 hours at 200F in the hope of evaporating the rubbish it contains. Within 10 minutes of smoking it, I had to stop because my mouth roof and gum line had become very irritated.
Just like that! Two days after my last try, my gumline, at the back of my mouth, still hurt when I brushed my teeth. You can't make that stuff up.
No more, I tell you. The tobacco, anyway, is tasteless. That is not the case with whole leaf!
If you are a commercial tobacco smoker and are experiencing mouth issues from the smoking, do give whole leaf a try.
This attempt might be one of the best decisions you will make. De-stemming and leaf storage is not that time consuming and is worth the time and effort.
I don't even get any tongue bite, anymore. That's saying something.
It makes sense. After all, this is the way pipe tobacco should be smoked.
 
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Thanks for sharing. I've still got to establish my stock and bearings on cigars, but looking forward to eventually getting and processing whole leaf for the pipe. Question: I wonder if the Cornell & Diehl blending tobaccos are cased at all, do you know? Like this one for example: https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipe-tobacco/cornell-diehl/bright-virginia-ribbon/product_id/114409
Once you try some of WLT Bright and Lemon you will forget all about crappy commercial tobacco. Ive tried every whole leaf available and Don has the good stuff.....and that's without casing.
Im about to order my second pound of Balkan Tradition, its that good.
 

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Once you try some of WLT Bright and Lemon you will forget all about crappy commercial tobacco. Ive tried every whole leaf available and Don has the good stuff.....and that's without casing.
Im about to order my second pound of Balkan Tradition, its that good.
GOOD tobacco -and that's what whole leaf is -does not require any casing or additives. Because you actually TASTE the tobacco.

Yesterday, I made another attempt with commercial tobacco. As I have 150lbs of it, understandably I am desperate to try to make it work. I baked a sealed tin of Mac Baren Vanilla Roll Cake and St. Bruno Flake, opened the tins right after to get rid of the accumulated moisture from the baking, placed the coins and flakes in a plate and, when cooled down, I packed a bowl with the coins.
But alas, after being less than 10 minutes into the smoke, not only did my mouth roof become irritated but I started feeling nauseous!
About an hour later, when my nausea dissipated, I started smelling the tobaccos and bang! The nausea returned. That's when I understood it was the tobacco.
Obviously, there's something fishy going on with these tobaccos. All it took was a bit over a month of smoking only whole leaf tobacco for me to find out how harmful commercia tobaccos have become.
Thus, I will be forced to sell my cellar on the appropriate forums.
 

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I would assume that the container itself is not designed for enduring that heat. It's hard to guess what toxins were outgassed from the metal plating, its lining, the seal, the paint.

Bob
I heard of this technique, some people have done it praising the results which would be akin to accelerated aging.
This being said, you are absolutely correct it's not helping at all.
 

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It sounds like you may have developed a sensitivity or allergy to propylene glycol. Easy enough to test, not so easy to remove from your tinned tobacco.
Or/and to the sorbitol, glycerin and other agents being used. It's the only explanation I have for my ailment. The various humectants quantities have been increased over the years and generated my intolerance to them.
 
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Or/and to the sorbitol, glycerin and other agents being used. It's the only explanation I have for my ailment. The various humectants quantities have been increased over the years and generated my intolerance to them.
Mid-tongue and mouth roof irritation is from moisture in the tobacco while burning and can be made worse with PG (a humectant). I would sell off the commercial stuff and load up on whole leaf.
 

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Not to mention the economical benefits...
Agreed though. i came at pipe smoking and Whole leaf from the other end.
I started making my own snus, got off the cigarettes, and got thinking "this whole leaf tobacco is great. Sure would like to try some in a pipe."
Got a pipe, and it was fantastic.
Started looking at pipe reddits and other threads, and they're super consumer driven
"i'm looking for X... Oh, try this blend and that blend, and this pipe, and that pipe..."
"X Blend just released... I Cellared 17 pounds for a rainy day, and willed it to my great grandniece"
"X Company is sold to a large company... Oh No! I took out a second mortgage to cellar 3 tons of my favorite blend so I can smoke it til the day I die"
Wondered if I was missing out, so i got a few blends.
Tried them a few times, but the Whole Leaf is just SO much better.
Enjoyed the Golden Sliced, but I'd rather smoke the VA Ripe.
Enjoyed Five Brothers, but I'd rather smoke unadulterated Burley.
I'm not buying any more blends.
The ones I've mentioned might get finished over a long time, but 29 times out of 30*, i'm reaching for my Whole Leaf.
*Mostly made up and arbitrary numbers used to imply the VAST majority of times
 

Guyrox

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Not to mention the economical benefits...
Agreed though. i came at pipe smoking and Whole leaf from the other end.
I started making my own snus, got off the cigarettes, and got thinking "this whole leaf tobacco is great. Sure would like to try some in a pipe."
Got a pipe, and it was fantastic.
Started looking at pipe reddits and other threads, and they're super consumer driven
"i'm looking for X... Oh, try this blend and that blend, and this pipe, and that pipe..."
"X Blend just released... I Cellared 17 pounds for a rainy day, and willed it to my great grandniece"
"X Company is sold to a large company... Oh No! I took out a second mortgage to cellar 3 tons of my favorite blend so I can smoke it til the day I die"
Wondered if I was missing out, so i got a few blends.
Tried them a few times, but the Whole Leaf is just SO much better.
Enjoyed the Golden Sliced, but I'd rather smoke the VA Ripe.
Enjoyed Five Brothers, but I'd rather smoke unadulterated Burley.
I'm not buying any more blends.
The ones I've mentioned might get finished over a long time, but 29 times out of 30*, i'm reaching for my Whole Leaf.
*Mostly made up and arbitrary numbers used to imply the VAST majority of times
Mate, it's on all pipe forums. They have completely fallen off their rockers.
 

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Started looking at pipe reddits and other threads, and they're super consumer driven
"i'm looking for X... Oh, try this blend and that blend, and this pipe, and that pipe..."
"X Blend just released... I Cellared 17 pounds for a rainy day, and willed it to my great grandniece"
"X Company is sold to a large company... Oh No! I took out a second mortgage to cellar 3 tons of my favorite blend so I can smoke it til the day I die"

Mate, it's on all pipe forums. They have completely fallen off their rockers.
Ain't that the truth?? I quit visiting all of them, especially Reddit. Good lord, how some people can get wrapped around the axle over the stupidest things. There are a grant total of three online forums I visit regularly, and two of them are aviation related.
 
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