Jackpines first time growing

[jackpine]

started these Apr 21 (today's may 7) in the same medium I use to start my vegies, 3 parts coconut cior 1 part perlite 2 parts store bought bagged manure and a little bone meal. Vegies were started a week ahead of these, tomatoes are already 3 inches tall. set these out side to catch a little sun. My usual plant day is memorial day or soon there after, sure hope these are established in root formation by then

 

[Angry Turtle]

Looking good! Lots of luck to you..

 

[jackpine]

planting area tilled and amended with wood ashes from the wood stove and leaf mold, still two weeks until I move seedling to the green house for hardening. I plan on addind 12-12-12 fertilizer to the soil a few days before transplanting.

 

[jackpine]

Set the young'uns out for a day of sun. At about one month since starting they seem far to small to transplant at my usual plant date ( end of May), so next year I think I should start 3-4 weeks earlier. The smaller one I think suffered from over crowding of seeds before I figured out how to handle those tiny seeds

 

[Knucklehead]

I usually start mine 8 weeks prior to my last predicted frost date. Then determine when to plant based on local ten day forecasts. Here are the frost dates by zip code:

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[jackpine]

I usually start mine 8 weeks prior to my last predicted frost date. Then determine when to plant based on local ten day forecasts. Here are the frost dates by zip code:

Lookup your first and last freeze/frost dates by zip code

Check out the largest plant identification database in the world. Read plant and insect reference guides at Daves Garden.

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I treated these the same as I did my vegies,at about the four weeks before last frost, but 8 weeks would've been a lot better, live and learn. I should be able non the less be able to put them in the green house (shown below) by then and not have to worry much about frost or even a freeze ( not uncommon here in Michigan this time of year) and just let them do their thing.

 

[deluxestogie]

What tobacco varieties are you growing?

Bob

 

[jackpine]

At the time I ordered I didnt have a lot of time to read up on varieties for my purpose,wanting to get some seeds started I just chose some that sounded good by name-Havana 608 from seedman, if I can get some filler leaf out of it I'll be happy

 

[deluxestogie]

You should get some nice filler, and binders, and maybe some decent wrappers.

Expect plants that grow to about head-height.

Bob

 

[Knucklehead]

I had a three year learning curve but I'm a bit more hard headed than most. Your seedlings seem to be doing very well.

 

[jackpine]

Your seedlings seem to be doing very well.

good to hear from someone who's been there done that

 

[jackpine]

Set these out to hopefully get some afternoon sun before they spend their first night in the green house. The plan is to set these in the ground in a week (+_). Rather than clip any leaves I chose to divide them into extra pans to give them a little more room to stretch out.

 

[jackpine]

Moved these to their summer home on the 3rd June, it rained the night before last and they survived a pretty good down pour.

 

[jackpine]

A few hot humid days have showed favor to my modest patch, and as of yet no sign of slugs or other creatures of maliceabout 3 weeks of growing.

 

[Knucklehead]

A few hot humid days have showed favor to my modest patch, and as of yet no sign of slugs or other creatures of maliceView attachment 56303about 3 weeks of growing.

You have some good growth coming along. Great job!

 

[jackpine]

I amended with 12-12-12 fertilizer when I tilled before planting, would anyone care to chime in on added fertilizer through the season. My vegy garden usually gets a shot or two of fish emulsion along the way but my only experience is with vegetables.

 

[deluxestogie]

In the absence of a soil test, and if you did not experienced heavy rain during the first two weeks after applying the fertilizer and transplanting the tobacco, then you likely don't need to supplement the fertilizer prior to your harvest. This assumes you applied the fertilizer at the recommended rate for tomatoes. Adding fish emulsion should be safe, though probably unnecessary.

Bob

 

[The Haroo ln]

I don't do soil tests as its a bit of a pain in the ass here in the UK. I usually don't fertilize my soil until my plants have been in the garden for around 3 weeks. Obviously that's all relative though. This year I gave my garden a heavy dose of high nitrogen fertilizer (25:15:15) 3 weeks before transplanting and then a very light dose (just a little more than 1/4 of the recommended) of the same fertilizer after 2 weeks of them in the garden due to all my leaves yellowing. It's worked beautifully!

 

[jackpine]

In the absence of a soil test, and if you did not experienced heavy rain during the first two weeks after applying the fertilizer and transplanting the tobacco, then you likely don't need to supplement the fertilizer prior to your harvest. This assumes you applied the fertilizer at the recommended rate for tomatoes. Adding fish emulsion should be safe, though probably unnecessary.

Bob

Not so much the early rain, what I should have mentioned is that we have a lot of sand that really eats up any amendments ( leaf mold, cow poopy ect.) added to the soil so a lot of leeching.

 

[jackpine]

I don't do soil tests as its a bit of a pain in the ass here in the UK. I usually don't fertilize my soil until my plants have been in the garden for around 3 weeks. Obviously that's all relative though. This year I gave my garden a heavy dose of high nitrogen fertilizer (25:15:15) 3 weeks before transplanting and then a very light dose (just a little more than 1/4 of the recommended) of the same fertilizer after 2 weeks of them in the garden due to all my leaves yellowing. It's worked beautifully!

I can assume a high acid soil here as we have a lot of oak trees here and I agree soil tests are somewhat burdensome so i usually just wing it and let experience guide ( vegy gardening for 40 years but baccy is all new to me), so this answers a bit of what I was wondering about, I not feeding fruit but foliage so high nitrogen makes the most since. I guess my fish juice would be lacking at 5%