Bought some tobacco (not from WLT) and the corojo seco seems way thicker then the viso. The viso is really thin, especially when compared. I saw him crossing over a classification (ligero, viso, seco) and writing down another classification. Could it be that he mixed up these two?
Could seco leaves be thicker than viso?
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Mixing up the classifications is one possibility but there are also a number of other possibilities. Without knowing the size of the operation, number of farmers the seller deals with, etc. here are just a few others.
1. different crop year
2. different farms selling to the retailer or tobacco auction
3. level of maturity, Seco could have been primed when mature, Viso could have been primed a little too early due to predicted weather moving in, or before workers went on vacation, or vet schedule to inoculate the cows, etc. etc.
4. difference in soil and nutrients from one side of the field to the other, soil tests take an average over the whole field
5. some plants could have received less sun, or flooding could have affected the lower elevation plants
6. tobacco is an agricultural product and there are just going to be variances
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As the cigar makers we make the final classification as we put them into the cigar. It has to do with getting that one cigar burning right. Thicker leaves in the center working outward with thinner leaves.
I have grown 4 or 5 different "Corojo" varieties. Each differed substantially from the others. What @Knucklehead and @MarcL said are the most meaningful responses to your question. It's also possible that the seco and viso are from different varieties of "Corojo".
Another issue is that seco doesn't suddenly stop at a specific stalk level. There is a gradual continuum from the lowest seco to the highest viso. (Again, the cutoff between viso and ligero is arbitrary.) Each individual sorter (usually a low-wage employee) makes his or her own decisions about which leaf goes into which stack.
Bob
Another issue is that seco doesn't suddenly stop at a specific stalk level. There is a gradual continuum from the lowest seco to the highest viso. (Again, the cutoff between viso and ligero is arbitrary.) Each individual sorter (usually a low-wage employee) makes his or her own decisions about which leaf goes into which stack.
Bob
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Not being a cigar man and knowing there are extremely capable forum members who are true artists at rolling cigars, I'll " step out in traffic" and offer an opinion so maybe I'll learn something. I would guess the heavier leaf would be to the center for combustion with lighter leaf to outside. The flavors should remain constant no matter the position in the stick. Be curious about the experienced thoughts here..
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Since the theory is that the less flamable stuff should be toward the middle, the thing to do is to put a match to the leaves you intend to use and find out which are the more flamable and which are the less. Like most/all things in rolling, better to just check it out than go with theories. Some ligero burns great and some seco doesn't burn worth a sh**.
As for the original question, given the leaves from one particular, actual plant, I would guess that the seco will not be thicker than the viso. Beyond the leaves you have from one exact plant, all bets are off. Of course that's not going to be your typical situation unless you grew that plant, plucked it, cured it, fermented it, bagged it.
Oh, and as for the theory of where the flamable stuff should go? I often stuff the seco tear-offs into the middle and the thing still burns evenly and well. So... it's all down to trying and finding out.
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Great explanation. Common sense and testing to know instead of assuming.
Lots of experienced rollers learned these things before but I bet some just learned now.
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