DGBAMA
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would the press be periodically retightened to maintain the "ooze" as the leaf shrinks/ferments/cures or "set it and forget it" until fermentation is done?
deluxestogie Grow Log 2013
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You have to periodically tighten it. Anyone want to start a seperate "Perique Pocessing" thread to let Deluxe get back to HIS grow log?
A moment of sunshine
Do you think this 3-1/2" pot might be too small?
I haven't been able to mow for about 2 weeks now, because of the rain (definitely rain; definitely rain). Everything is getting raggedy. In addition, everything is blocking everything else in my whole garden view. I need a camera on a boom.
The flooded Harrow Velvet, which had several days of standing water twice, is still surviving. Most of the wilted leaf was salvaged, and now hanging in the shed.
The Machu Picchu is nowhere as tall as last year, but the leaf size is remarkable.
And the Prileps! I do hope they are a good smoke, since they are incredibly productive, and beautiful plants as well. Although some of my plants are crookedy at the bottom because they were planted that way, that's not the case with the Prilep. They are crookedy because of wind storms. Add ~7-8 inches to their height.
The Moonlight is now looking pretty decent, and very similar in appearance (so far) to the FL Sumatra. The Guácharo started off kind of puny, but is now appearing more robust--in appearance, somewhere between Little Dutch and the massive Bolivia Criollo Black. Still no idea what either tastes like, of course.
If height is any indication of cob diameter, then I may need a shoulder harness to smoke a pipe made from this. Actually, I'd be thrilled with a 3" wide cob--even just one. The ears are forming, and there are so many of them that the bugs can't keep up with eating the silks. Yay!
The sorry looking plant pictured at the top of the post is a VA Bright in its second season. In the view below, you can see where the stalk was cut this spring, to allow a sucker to grow. It spent last year--the whole year--indoors, in my enclosed back porch. This season, it has lived mostly outdoors, on my partially shaded front porch. If it lives through this winter (indoors), then next spring I will lightly prune the roots (like a bonsai), and give it some additional fresh soil, and return it to the same pot. Despite its Guantanamo-like conditions of confinement, I have resisted the urge to force feed it. It will just have to make do.
Since I have a number of varieties in their second year, I have little doubt that all tobacco is perennial, if protected from freezing. If I manage to squeeze out another year or two with these, then I'll harvest some seed from them, and see how they do out in the real world.
Bob
Do you think this 3-1/2" pot might be too small?
I haven't been able to mow for about 2 weeks now, because of the rain (definitely rain; definitely rain). Everything is getting raggedy. In addition, everything is blocking everything else in my whole garden view. I need a camera on a boom.
The flooded Harrow Velvet, which had several days of standing water twice, is still surviving. Most of the wilted leaf was salvaged, and now hanging in the shed.
The Machu Picchu is nowhere as tall as last year, but the leaf size is remarkable.
And the Prileps! I do hope they are a good smoke, since they are incredibly productive, and beautiful plants as well. Although some of my plants are crookedy at the bottom because they were planted that way, that's not the case with the Prilep. They are crookedy because of wind storms. Add ~7-8 inches to their height.
The Moonlight is now looking pretty decent, and very similar in appearance (so far) to the FL Sumatra. The Guácharo started off kind of puny, but is now appearing more robust--in appearance, somewhere between Little Dutch and the massive Bolivia Criollo Black. Still no idea what either tastes like, of course.
If height is any indication of cob diameter, then I may need a shoulder harness to smoke a pipe made from this. Actually, I'd be thrilled with a 3" wide cob--even just one. The ears are forming, and there are so many of them that the bugs can't keep up with eating the silks. Yay!
The sorry looking plant pictured at the top of the post is a VA Bright in its second season. In the view below, you can see where the stalk was cut this spring, to allow a sucker to grow. It spent last year--the whole year--indoors, in my enclosed back porch. This season, it has lived mostly outdoors, on my partially shaded front porch. If it lives through this winter (indoors), then next spring I will lightly prune the roots (like a bonsai), and give it some additional fresh soil, and return it to the same pot. Despite its Guantanamo-like conditions of confinement, I have resisted the urge to force feed it. It will just have to make do.
Since I have a number of varieties in their second year, I have little doubt that all tobacco is perennial, if protected from freezing. If I manage to squeeze out another year or two with these, then I'll harvest some seed from them, and see how they do out in the real world.
Bob
Great post Bob. Thanks.
The purpose of the experiment with second year plants is to grow perennial tobacco in your garden?
My experience of treating some plants as perennials, when most people treat them as annuals, shows that the plants may live for 3-4 years but not as productive ones.
In my island the winter isn't so cold, so i manage to keep peppers and eggplants for 3 years but after 1st year didn't produce almost anything...and i lost half of them during the years.
My experience of treating some plants as perennials, when most people treat them as annuals, shows that the plants may live for 3-4 years but not as productive ones.
In my island the winter isn't so cold, so i manage to keep peppers and eggplants for 3 years but after 1st year didn't produce almost anything...and i lost half of them during the years.
workhorse_01
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I kept a heirloom tomato two years. I just brought it in when winter came. The second year it produced about half the tomatoes of the year before, but Bob isn't trying to get tomatoes he's hunting leaves. Even though my tomato didn't produce as much, it was a healthy, full of leaves plant
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leverhead
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Mown or not, it's looking very nice!
Multi-year tobacco plant: Not looking for leaf. Not looking for fruit.
If a single plant in a 3-1/2" pot is capable of producing even one normal seed pod when it's 3 or 4 years old, and the (estimated 35,000) seeds from it produce normal, healthy plants in subsequent years, then that would be a good thing to know.
In subtropical areas, second and third sucker crops are sometimes grown (some FTT members do this), and some tobacco plants are kept going for more than a single year. Even in temperate zones, frost-shielded tobacco roots can sprout the following season, if not removed. Eventually, field-grown tobacco will succumb to accumulated pests.
Bob
If a single plant in a 3-1/2" pot is capable of producing even one normal seed pod when it's 3 or 4 years old, and the (estimated 35,000) seeds from it produce normal, healthy plants in subsequent years, then that would be a good thing to know.
In subtropical areas, second and third sucker crops are sometimes grown (some FTT members do this), and some tobacco plants are kept going for more than a single year. Even in temperate zones, frost-shielded tobacco roots can sprout the following season, if not removed. Eventually, field-grown tobacco will succumb to accumulated pests.
Bob
workhorse_01
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I think you suggested that we should pull up the old tobacco roots when we're finished each season, as they are like a buffet for buggers like nematodes each year. So I pull them each year, and add shrimp shells to the area's where I grow. I see your point, and that's why you have grown it in a pot. Do you only have 1 plant from 1 variety or are you trying for viable seed from more than one plant?
workhorse_01
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My apologies sir, sometimes my mind runs away with me.
Like a stray dog, these leftovers from spring 2012 were just kept watered in the back porch all winter. Now they're an experiment.
Bob
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DGBAMA
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Love the view.
workhorse_01
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If we as human beings could only create something so perfect.
marksctm
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Man, what a shot Bob.
Exquisite.
Nice. I'm away of my home for two weeks now. Hardly waiting to see my tobacco. It's time to harwest? Hope all is alright.
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