glycol or glycerol

[augusto]

Hello everyone from Italy this is one of the best forums on the web
about cigarette tobacco I noticed that it does not burn well, if too dry the piece falls, if it is too wet it tends to be too hard to inhale. So I thought maybe it would be better to add the propylene glycolic it would help? to have a correct combustion? (and this is the secret in commercial cigarettes that have a correct combustion)? but I can't choose between propylene glycol or glycerol !!! Which is the most suitable? thank you all!!!!

 

[deluxestogie]

Welcome to the forum. Either prolylene glycol or glycerol both reduce combustion.

Bob

 

[Alpine]

Welcome to FTT. Is the tobacco in low case? What strain is it? What papers do you use? Is it fine or coarse cut? Give us a little more info... PG and glycerol are used in commercial tobacco as anti fungal and moisteners, not to improve the burning quality of the tobacco.

pier

 

[augusto]

Thanks to The reply the tobacco is normal Virginia and burley gold I noticed for a long time that even if fine the relative humidity slows down the combustion. If it is very dry it burns, however, it falls during the smoke! why this does not happen in commercial cigarettes? there will be a reason !!!! some trick this happens with any cigarette tube

 

[deluxestogie]

Most properly grown and cured and finished tobacco burns perfectly well, without any additive. That is the nature of tobacco. I would guess that the problem you are having is directly related to the specific tobacco you are smoking. Depending on the variety, whether too much chlorine was in the soil, its water source or the fertilizer used, and the method of curing and finishing, some tobacco:

1. may not support adequate combustion to begin with.
2. may be more hygroscopic than is typical for tobacco leaf (that is to say, it absorbs and retains more water more easily)

Is this commercially produced tobacco, or tobacco that you grew and cured yourself?

Bob

 

[burge]

I have no issues however the cut of the tobacco to what you are using. I fine shred holds better and the type of injector you use. I have the premier hand crank injectors all of them work good. Question what tobacco are you using if leaf how it is shredded and how is it injected. When tobacco is too moist from my experience you can't get a drag out of it. Tobacco when injected into a tube needs to be compressed when injected will fill a tube. I live in a really dry climate sometimes I will lose a smoke if I don't tamp the tube. That will happen with all ryo tobacco but not often with a hand crank. The slide injectors that would always happen.

 

[Propsjonnyb]

Glycerin is used to "fix" the flavour, PPG when it burns adds smoke - lots of smoke ! I would suggest you take a small sample and do a potash spray , let it dry then mix your blend as normal , When dry the potash will help the burn

 

[augusto]

I have used various types of tobacco, it is possible that some of them are particularly hydroscopic, generally the heel is, but the condition remains !!!!! all the commercial cigarettes have the same trend that is a uniform combustion and ease of aspiration from the beginning until the end I think they use something to help the combustion because even when you sweep the ash the piece doesn't come down I understand that the cut has its importance, I tried it in different ways The ease of aspiration is very different, yesterday I smoked a marlboro, in 4 pitches I had already finished it! With no effort with my lips !!! If for you and equal to it (commercial cigarette) then it is the tobacco I use

 

[augusto]

Glycerin is used to "fix" the flavour, PPG when it burns adds smoke - lots of smoke ! I would suggest you take a small sample and do a potash spray , let it dry then mix your blend as normal , When dry the potash will help the burn

do you mean potassium ??

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

This sounds like an extreme solution.

 

[deluxestogie]

In the United States, all commercial cigarettes used to be doctored with potassium nitrate, to "assist" combustion. Specifically, it was used so that a lit cigarette would never self-extinguish. That became illegal here, once attention was drawn to the role of potassium nitrate in a lit cigarette causing house fires.

Natural tobacco will, once lit, burn for a short time on its own, but will eventually self-extinguish.

Bob

 

[augusto]

with the same tobacco but with hand-rolled cigarettes combustion and ok. The problem is with the tubes

 

[burge]

What tubes are you using? What tobacco again? You ha mentioned a Marlboro well ryo burns slower and its meant to enjoy most commercial cigarettes are treated to maximize nicotine absorption not to enjoy the flavour of a good tobacco.

 

[augusto]

I used many types of tubes of different brands. So, commercial cigarettes burn better this is established, at least for me. I wanted to know if there are tricks that tobacco companies use (surely)

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

British American Tobacco Global Ingredients - Ingredients - Brand Specific - Cigarettes

Ingredients

www.bat-ingredients.com

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

The only suspect I see for increasing burn rate in the above is expanded tobacco.

 

[Alpine]

To me, what is noteworthy is the fact that a commercial cig contains 50 to 60 % tobacco (including expanded and reconstituted tobacco) at 10% humidity. This seems very low case to me, no wonder it burns well... add a few more chemicals, and there you have your inextinguishable cig.

 

[augusto]

Yes, I think so too !!!! it is impossible that a cigarette made with artisanal tobacco can match commercial combustion

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

I just realized that ~20% of the weight is the cigarette filter.

 

[augusto]

Then, in industrial cigarettes il.pezzo does not fall while aspiring as proof of the fact that the additives are really so many !!!