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Fox cashell

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Hello folks, I am in the Longview,Tyler, East TX area and trying my hand at tobacco growing, so I signed up here for some pointers and direction. I am around 67 days in on my first ever tobacco grow and the plants were looking great but have since turned yellow-green on me. The variety I have is from strictly medicinal seeds, a Virginia variety but not sure which, it just said (nicotania tabacum") we have had boo koo rain so I'm thinking it washed my nutrients away cause this variety is 80 to 100 days till mature and I'm at around 67 days, I've kept 2 plants to flower for seeds but thought I would introduce myself and ask at the same time. I've got things eating on them as well, grasshoppers,aphids,etc but also have ladybugs lacewings and orb weaver spiders, but the aphids seem to be winning. I will try and post pictures of the plants and maybe it's just nutrient deficiency,will try that first.
 

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Welcome to the forum. Use BT or BTK spray for insect pests. It's a natural product. If you're not yet flowering use a fertilizer with nitrogen like miracle grow to combat the yellowing. If flowering and topping started don't apply the fertilizer.
 

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What's up fellas it's been years I quit smoking for about 4 years then vaped after that messed me up a little I went back to smoking I'm just putting in an order for some leaf so I can get away from that commercial trash
Howdy neighbor, just notice you're location, I'm in northern Mi too
 

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Hello folks, I am in the Longview,Tyler, East TX area and trying my hand at tobacco growing, so I signed up here for some pointers and direction. I am around 67 days in on my first ever tobacco grow and the plants were looking great but have since turned yellow-green on me. The variety I have is from strictly medicinal seeds, a Virginia variety but not sure which, it just said (nicotania tabacum") we have had boo koo rain so I'm thinking it washed my nutrients away cause this variety is 80 to 100 days till mature and I'm at around 67 days, I've kept 2 plants to flower for seeds but thought I would introduce myself and ask at the same time. I've got things eating on them as well, grasshoppers,aphids,etc but also have ladybugs lacewings and orb weaver spiders, but the aphids seem to be winning. I will try and post pictures of the plants and maybe it's just nutrient deficiency,will try that first.
The aphids suck - literally, and they will win if you don't get them under control. Your plants will survive but then you'll harvest and think you got all the aphids off them, and as you air cure, or worse stalk cure, they suddenly reappear in masses on your leaf. I don't like the little buggers. I spray with a mild dish detergent while the plant is still alive/not harvested unless it looks like the lady bugs are winning. It's a losing battle but aphids can spread disease. I'll hose the plant down with a strong stream of water and religiously wash every aphid off every individual leaf before stalk curing. It doesn't matter. As soon as they are hanging for a week all the aphids plus some are back. At that point I ignore them and just do my best to brush them off after the leaves dry and try not to think about how many aphids I'm ingesting or smoking. I suppose the aphids are a good protein source and their honeydew is carbohydrates. I opt for that over whatever "safe" pesticide might be used to control them. Even safe pesticides have wetting agents I'd rather not consume. Tobacco is probably not a healthy choice in general but why make it worse. Every year is different for what pests prevail.

I notice when my plants get excessive moisture they yellow. I think it's more a factor of the roots getting waterlogged and the plant struggling. A dose of fertilizer when things dry out will pull them out of the yellow stage faster but it's a double edged sword. The big burst of nitrogen greens them up but also makes them more attractive to aphids and other pests. If they are in good soil skipping the extra fertilizer might be a plus in the long run. To be honest though I usually give them a little half strength fertilizer just so I don't have to watch them suffer. I agree with @Hemlock though - once they are nearing the flowering stage no more fertilizer or you're liable to run into smokability and curing issues (not to mention removing more suckers than you can dream of).
 

Fox cashell

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Thank you all for the welcome and pointers! I ended up putting a bit of fertilizer on them but not much at all cause they had been topped like @Hemlock mentioned, well all but 2 for seeds, anyway as far as the aphids go I will smoke their ass if they stick around, and if spraying don't work!! The plants are exhibiting signs of maturity to me but since I've never grown tobacco before I don't know for sure if I'm blowing smoke up my own arse, and mind screwing myself but that is just part of the learning curve I'm sure and I usually run off the road before I learn a damn thing and that's just growing, then I gotta yellow it and cure it and store it. Thank God for WLT and you fine folks here so I can learn and smoke at the same time!! @plantdude Thanks for the notice of "aftermarket" aphids I had no idea they would attack curing/drying leaves, I'd heard that about beetles and I am fixing to go spray the plants shortly. It's a true wonder man ever gets to eat or smoke, gardening is sure fickle and hard work. Forgive me if this isn't posted in the correct thingy,gardening isn't the only thing I have trouble with. May you all be blessed at what you put your hands to.
 

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Bob's note about aphids:
Aphids arrive on a plant by means of a flying aphid landing on the plant, and laying eggs. That's how they get there on growing tobacco. The babies, the sucking aphids, attach to a single spot until they mature. And they poop out sticky, "honeydew". If you wash them away with a spray of water—forceful enough to dislodge them, but not so forceful that it bruises the leaf lamina—those particular aphids are gone for good. They can't climb back up. (Some folks mist them with a bit of Dawn dish detergent dissolved in a spray bottle of water. This causes them to dehydrate and die. But then I worry about sufficient, subsequent rain to rinse away the detergent from the leaf surface.)

When I sun-cure tobacco, the leaves (or stalk-cut plants) are still exposed to the open air, and can be re-colonized by aphids during the two or three weeks of sun-curing. For air-cured varieties in a open air shed, the same applies. If the air-curing space is screened-in, then the only later aphids that can appear are those for which eggs were previously laid by a flying aphid, but not yet hatched.

Dried, dead aphids on fully cured tobacco are initially very difficult to brush off, since the area tends to be sticky. If you then kiln the leaf, or allow it to age on its own, the stickiness diminishes somewhat, making it easier to brush away the dead aphids. Regardless of all this fuss, I still end up picking away individual, dead aphids prior to rolling a cigar, or shredding for pipe blending.

Bob
 

Fox cashell

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Welcome to the forum. Use BT or BTK spray for insect pests. It's a natural product. If you're not yet flowering use a fertilizer with nitrogen like miracle grow to combat the yellowing. If flowering and topping started don't apply the fertilizer.

Bob's note about aphids:
Aphids arrive on a plant by means of a flying aphid landing on the plant, and laying eggs. That's how they get there on growing tobacco. The babies, the sucking aphids, attach to a single spot until they mature. And they poop out sticky, "honeydew". If you wash them away with a spray of water—forceful enough to dislodge them, but not so forceful that it bruises the leaf lamina—those particular aphids are gone for good. They can't climb back up. (Some folks mist them with a bit of Dawn dish detergent dissolved in a spray bottle of water. This causes them to dehydrate and die. But then I worry about sufficient, subsequent rain to rinse away the detergent from the leaf surface.)

When I sun-cure tobacco, the leaves (or stalk-cut plants) are still exposed to the open air, and can be re-colonized by aphids during the two or three weeks of sun-curing. For air-cured varieties in a open air shed, the same applies. If the air-curing space is screened-in, then the only later aphids that can appear are those for which eggs were previously laid by a flying aphid, but not yet hatched.

Dried, dead aphids on fully cured tobacco are initially very difficult to brush off, since the area tends to be sticky. If you then kiln the leaf, or allow it to age on its own, the stickiness diminishes somewhat, making it easier to brush away the dead aphids. Regardless of all this fuss, I still end up picking away individual, dead aphids prior to rolling a cigar, or shredding for pipe blending.

Bob
Bob's note about aphids:
Aphids arrive on a plant by means of a flying aphid landing on the plant, and laying eggs. That's how they get there on growing tobacco. The babies, the sucking aphids, attach to a single spot until they mature. And they poop out sticky, "honeydew". If you wash them away with a spray of water—forceful enough to dislodge them, but not so forceful that it bruises the leaf lamina—those particular aphids are gone for good. They can't climb back up. (Some folks mist them with a bit of Dawn dish detergent dissolved in a spray bottle of water. This causes them to dehydrate and die. But then I worry about sufficient, subsequent rain to rinse away the detergent from the leaf surface.)

When I sun-cure tobacco, the leaves (or stalk-cut plants) are still exposed to the open air, and can be re-colonized by aphids during the two or three weeks of sun-curing. For air-cured varieties in a open air shed, the same applies. If the air-curing space is screened-in, then the only later aphids that can appear are those for which eggs were previously laid by a flying aphid, but not yet hatched.

Dried, dead aphids on fully cured tobacco are initially very difficult to brush off, since the area tends to be sticky. If you then kiln the leaf, or allow it to age on its own, the stickiness diminishes somewhat, making it easier to brush away the dead aphids. Regardless of all this fuss, I still end up picking away individual, dead aphids prior to rolling a cigar, or shredding for pipe blending.

Bob
Thanks for the additional aphids info, I had no idea but that's what I'm here for is to learn. I'm growing a Virginia type and hope to air cure until I can learn about fluing the tobacco. My air cure space is under the redbud tree at present, I also was just hanging it on a cattle panel in the sun but it was only a few leaves, and I had read somewhere it was ok to let them dry on the stalk? We shall see, If I come away with smokable product and some patience, I'll be tickled pink(whatever the hell that really means)? again thanks and may everyone have a great tobacco harvest!
 
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