Knucklehead's 2022 Prilep and Veggie Container Grow Blog
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Old Gasman
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You're right, the weather man said we should get a sunny day around June 20th this year.
Alpine
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Nope, aging stops when the conditions are not ideal (low relative humidity or low temperature) and starts again with the appropriate heat and humidity. It can only be stopped completely if the leaves are exposed to high temps (i.e. flue cured) that destroy the oxidase and peroxidase enzyme within the leaf.
pier
pier
Ok that’s helpfull so is there no point fermenting flue cured or sun cure tobaccos then ?
Alpine
Moderator
Flue cured tobacco is smokable right out of the kiln, and as far as I know kilning is not needed nor beneficial. Sun cured leaves do not reach temperatures high enough to destroy the primary oxidase enzyme, so sun cured tobacco do improve its taste within the kiln. It darkens a little in color though.
Sun cure is the poor’s man flue cure, resulting in tobacco that tastes between air cured and flue cured. If the weather collaborates, I prefer to sun cure both bright leaf and oriental strains. I only air cure Maryland and burley (I don’t grow cigar strains but if I have to, I would air cure it).
pier
Edit: I kiln all my tobacco, since I don’t flue cure any leaf
Sun cure is the poor’s man flue cure, resulting in tobacco that tastes between air cured and flue cured. If the weather collaborates, I prefer to sun cure both bright leaf and oriental strains. I only air cure Maryland and burley (I don’t grow cigar strains but if I have to, I would air cure it).
pier
Edit: I kiln all my tobacco, since I don’t flue cure any leaf
Planted corn and okra seed. Thinned the Prilep and tomatoes to one per cell. Next seed sown will be squash, pumpkin, and onions. Beans were getting out of control so I moved them to their own spot and raised the light.
Pole and Bush beans. High tech setup.
Tomatoes and Prilep thinned one per cell.
Corn and Okra seeded
Pole and Bush beans. High tech setup.
Tomatoes and Prilep thinned one per cell.
Corn and Okra seeded
Sowed the Knucklehead pumpkin seeds from deluxestogie, Zephyr and Tempest crookneck squash, Candy onions, more okra. Gave the Prilep a haircut. Forgot my camera.
Prilep oriental tobacco, Clemson Spineless okra, Knucklehead pumpkin
Candy onion, Zephyr Squash, Tempest Squash
Pole beans, Bush beans, Rutgers tomato, Big Boy tomato, Better Boy tomato, Silver Queen corn.
High in the 70's with clouds. Moved this taller stuff outside after it warms in the day for some scattered sun
Candy onion, Zephyr Squash, Tempest Squash
Pole beans, Bush beans, Rutgers tomato, Big Boy tomato, Better Boy tomato, Silver Queen corn.
High in the 70's with clouds. Moved this taller stuff outside after it warms in the day for some scattered sun
After looking at Bob's tomato photos I realized I better put some fertilizer on mine. 
Back to the basement.
Thanks Bob.
Back to the basement.Thanks Bob.
The tall tomato plants that I always get are the result of being exposed to only a partial day of direct sunlight, during a month with too many fully cloudy days. I just pluck off the bottom leaves, dig a trench in the garden beds, then lay the bare lower stalk and the root ball horizontally in the trench. The packing soil then slopes upward to a vertical for the upper portion to protrude above ground. I think that the plants ultimately grow more robust from the expansive, shallow root system that develops. (Meaning that I don't care too much how well they do. They're on their own. I am always guaranteed to get either way too few tomatoes or way too many.)
Bob
Bob
Oldfella
Well-Known Member
@Knucklehead said , High in the 70's with clouds. Moved this taller stuff outside after it warms in the day for some scattered sun.
Hope your Pussy Cat doesn't do what mine does. Jump on rail, climb on the tray and tip the whole thing onto the floor. All this with a look of: how did that happen? On her mischievous face.
Oldfella
Hope your Pussy Cat doesn't do what mine does. Jump on rail, climb on the tray and tip the whole thing onto the floor. All this with a look of: how did that happen? On her mischievous face.
Oldfella
No cats and the guard dog Chihuahua's can't jump that high. They can jump in a boat, though.
A little bit of activity from the onion and squash.
Weather today: 50-70F, cloudy with 1-2 inches of rain, 10-15 mph winds. I've moved the plants outside under the lower porch to take advantage of the wind, hoping the plants will respond by strengthing the stem and possibly the roots to resist the wind. You can do the same thing with a small oscillating fan, but I only have shop fans out in the shop and I'm not going to lug them out to the basement. They get used in curing season when the humidity is high.
Prilep got their second haircut. The stems have really stiffened up since the first haircut but they are still a little floppy at ground level so I'm hoping some wind action will stiffen them even further. I'm not hardening off yet, just utilizing some good weather.
My first okra ended up with several empty cells so I reseeded with even more cells. Thankful for my long season.
Weather today: 50-70F, cloudy with 1-2 inches of rain, 10-15 mph winds. I've moved the plants outside under the lower porch to take advantage of the wind, hoping the plants will respond by strengthing the stem and possibly the roots to resist the wind. You can do the same thing with a small oscillating fan, but I only have shop fans out in the shop and I'm not going to lug them out to the basement. They get used in curing season when the humidity is high.
Prilep got their second haircut. The stems have really stiffened up since the first haircut but they are still a little floppy at ground level so I'm hoping some wind action will stiffen them even further. I'm not hardening off yet, just utilizing some good weather.
My first okra ended up with several empty cells so I reseeded with even more cells. Thankful for my long season.
The weather has turned on me, high in the 50's F and low in the 30's for a couple of days so I'm keeping the plants inside all snug and warm on their little propagation blankets. I put the lights on the timer today, on 6am off 9pm. The heat mats bypass the timer so they stay on all the time. I neglected that little detail my first year and my heat mats were turning off at night along with the lights. It's all sorted now. Brain fart. Should be seeing 70's around Monday and it should be time to start hardening off the earliest seedlings including the Prilep tobacco.
The earliest plantings spent some time outside while it was warm and windy the past few days. They seemed to enjoy and I managed not to drop or kill any of them so I'm calling that a win. The Prilep seem much more sturdy after two haircuts and some time fighting the wind. They stand up nice now.
Here are the Knucklehead pumpkin seed Bob sent. Ok. I get it now.
www.johnnyseeds.com
Here are the first couple seedlings of the Knuckleheads.
The bean jungle. They want out.
Tomatoes are doing so-so. The Rutgers variety looked the roughest so I sowed seed into four more cells of the Rutgers.
The corn also wants more space, more sunshine, and less water (oops). Slightly yellow but I think they will make it until hardening off and planting. They're not hurting, they're just bored and wanting some action.
And my okra. Those first seeds were slow so I sowed some more.
Squash coming along. The Zephyr squash got a strong start out of the gates, with the Tempest trudging along behind.
Top the whole thing off with some Awniawn (onion) as Chef Justin Wilson would say. Candy sweet onions.
The earliest plantings spent some time outside while it was warm and windy the past few days. They seemed to enjoy and I managed not to drop or kill any of them so I'm calling that a win. The Prilep seem much more sturdy after two haircuts and some time fighting the wind. They stand up nice now.
Here are the Knucklehead pumpkin seed Bob sent. Ok. I get it now.
Knuckle Head - (F1) Pumpkin Seed | Johnny's Selected Seeds
Freaky, orange, and warted. Spectacular warting makes Knuckle Head the star of the show. Moderate vines bear fruit averaging 12–16 lb. and 12" H x ...
www.johnnyseeds.com
Here are the first couple seedlings of the Knuckleheads.
The bean jungle. They want out.
Tomatoes are doing so-so. The Rutgers variety looked the roughest so I sowed seed into four more cells of the Rutgers.
The corn also wants more space, more sunshine, and less water (oops). Slightly yellow but I think they will make it until hardening off and planting. They're not hurting, they're just bored and wanting some action.
And my okra. Those first seeds were slow so I sowed some more.
Squash coming along. The Zephyr squash got a strong start out of the gates, with the Tempest trudging along behind.
Top the whole thing off with some Awniawn (onion) as Chef Justin Wilson would say. Candy sweet onions.
Chlorine in the water can cause sometimes near fireproof tobacco leaf. Since I'm doing an all container grow for tobacco and veggies I need to figure out a way to filter out the chlorine from my tap water. My rains in the summertime can be few and far between, not to mention the mosquitoes around here. I found an inline RV filter with garden hose threads. I ordered two of them so if necessary, I can couple the two together and filter the filter so to speak for even more effectiveness and chlorine reduction or elimination. Are any of you campers and RVers familiar with these and how well did they work?
I also ordered some chlorine test strips to verify how well they work and how long before they need replacement. I'll keep you guys posted. Also, what are your thoughts on these?
Inline RV filter
I also ordered some chlorine test strips to verify how well they work and how long before they need replacement. I'll keep you guys posted. Also, what are your thoughts on these?
Inline RV filter
GreenDragon
Well-Known Member
Have you considered a house water filter system? You could run dual carbon filters and get a lot more throughput than trying to use the dribble that comes out of a 1/4" tube from an RV / ice maker filter.
ISPRING 2-Stage Whole House Water Filtration System, Reduces up to 99% Chlorine WGB21B - The Home Depot
This ISPRING Whole House Water Filtration System with Sediment and Carbon Block Filters helps to finish all your odd work easily.
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I'm afraid that my recreational vehicles have laces on them. With regard to mosquitoes and rain barrels, you just put a screen on top of the barrel.
Bob
Bob
This one has garden hose fittings. At 60 psi the flow rate is 5.7L/minute. I would like to avoid plumbing.Have you considered a house water filter system? You could run dual carbon filters and get a lot more throughput than trying to use the dribble that comes out of a 1/4" tube from an RV / ice maker filter.
ISPRING 2-Stage Whole House Water Filtration System, Reduces up to 99% Chlorine WGB21B - The Home Depot
This ISPRING Whole House Water Filtration System with Sediment and Carbon Block Filters helps to finish all your odd work easily.www.homedepot.com
