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Modifications to the Cozy Can

manfisher

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So this year I truly plan on building a cozy can for making some pipe blends. Instead of using a hot water thermostats to control the temp could I use something like an InkBird PID that combines the temp and set temp into one device?
 

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The Cozy Can was an attempt to define the absolute minimum requirement for a home flue-cure chamber. [Flue-curing by hobby growers had never been attempted.] Although I would suggest a container larger than a trash can, and one that is rectangular, for space efficiency, the Cozy Can is definitely ripe for improvements. Any controller (preferably one that remembers its settings if the power should momentarily blink off) that can be set for the desired temp range will work.

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Bob
 

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The Cozy Can was an attempt to define the absolute minimum requirement for a home flue-cure chamber. [Flue-curing by hobby growers had never been attempted.] Although I would suggest a container larger than a trash can, and one that is rectangular, for space efficiency, the Cozy Can is definitely ripe for improvements. Any controller (preferably one that remembers its settings if the power should momentarily blink off) that can be set for the desired temp range will work.

Another option:

Bob
Thanks Bob. The more and more research I do on this forum about flue curing, fermenting, etc. the more confused I get by it. Does flue curing actually change the flavor of the leaf or simply speed up the natural curing process?
 

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Flue-curing rapidly yellows the leaf (preserving its sugars), then promptly kills the leaf (and its oxidizing enzymes) to prevent any further curing or aging. That what makes bright leaf more acidic than other types of tobacco, and is typically the major ingredient in cigarette blends. It's also important in many pipe blends.


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This is baffling.

Why not simply purchase an electric smoker? Ya know, one for smoking meat. Nearly completely temp controlled. AND you could smoke your tobacco as well
 

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Being a consumer of whole leaf and not even a grower, I am planning on going even further with minimalist concepts of kilning. Simply put, tobacco in a sealed jar placed in a warm spot. Most of my tobacco has been kept in a cabinet above the refrigerator for years. All of it is black! For a more serious attempt I have a couple jars in a cabinet outside that are being warmed with the summer heat. It has already been a month so I expect to be testing the effects soon. Summer being almost over, I have already built a small styrofoam box around the exposed warm pipe on top of my water heater. Temperatures are not expected to go over 100’ F. I understand that typical kilns with whole leaf requires certain temperatures and humidity for important reasons, however with tobacco sealed in a jar, those reasons may not apply. Temperatures for the prevention of mold may not be needed because the environment in the jar may not have enough oxygen for mold to grow. I suspect this because most tobacco I put in jars tend to create a vacuum. The tobacco theoretically using up the oxygen. Now using a vacuum sealer for jars I am even more confident with this as a mold prevention method. Humidity I see as the wetter the better but this does lead to the question, how important is oxygen in kilning. I don’t know of oxygen sensors being put on kilns and some kilns seem fairly airtight. I understand the development of ammonia but I it does itself break down and may not need to entirely escape away or be removed. Moving forward with this I will be able to report, however I do not plan on having any control samples to compare. If anything this will be just a low temperature stoving. Any ideas regarding the function of oxygen in kilning would be appreciated.
 
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