Greate Bob!!
Really Easy Perique Press
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workhorse_01
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I made one and submerged it in water. It finally started smelling fruity a week ago when I checked it. The first month it smelled really, really bad. Like raw sewage.
BriarRabbit
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Thank you for this thread; I love a good VaPer! I will have to try my hand at this someday if I can find somebody who carries seed/lings for a tobacco that this method would work well in processing. I mean, What makes SJPerique is that it's grown in SJ Parish, LA which I can't duplicate in Ft Worth TX. That said, I don't think it matters because I don't know anybody selling Perique seed/lings.
I grew over 75 varieties of plants last year and Perique is one that did not sell . I have left it off my list for this year . I could still seed them if there was a large enough amount needed .
Yes you can!. The "only real Perique is grown is St James Parish" is just hype from the tobacco industry. Perique processed tobacco tastes the same no matter where it is made. Every craft, hobby etc has its group of people that insist that certain conditions,cultivars, brands etc are needed for their product to be unique and special. Only "real" sourdough comes from the San Fransisco area... our beer is so unique because we use special hops that were grown on the western side of the Cascade mountains every third year. Perique is no different. Try to make some, you'll be surprised.
I find it interesting that majority of perique purchased by the pipe blenders is made from Air Cured grown in Tennesse and Kentucky, according to the one and only mfg/supplier. The process/product is not unique to a particular leaf source.
According to the members that have made Perique processed tobacco at home, you don't even need to use the Perique variety.
I'm beginning to rethink that thought. I opened up a jar of Perique that I made in 2009. I used Havana 263. When I opened it this past weekend it had quite an interesting smell. It was fruity like Perique but it also had a very pleasent cigar aroma to it. This might open up a whole new avenue.. Boutique Perique!
I've smoked this stuff when it was fresh and it smelled and tasted like "real" store bought Perique. Aging in a sealed jar ???
My Turique Perique (from Bitlis) molded on me during the fermenting phase. I'm intriqued enough now that I am going to make some with several different varities this summer.
And yes... I'm going to try my Perique 263 this weekend while I stare at my float tray full of tobacco..
The FTT seed bank has Perique variety. New Hope Seeds sells seed for the Perique variety.
My opinion is that the pressure process overwhelms the varietal nuance. Yes, there are subtle differences from using different varieties, but they are quite subtle.
In 2013, I used Bolivia Criollo Black for Perique. When air-cured and kilned, this variety has a distinctive aroma and taste that subsides only slowly with time. As Perique, it just smells and smokes like Saint James Parish Perique. (Sorry, Louisiana.) I have not tried using a named cigar variety.
My suggestion is to make your own Perique with whatever leaf you happen to have color-cured when the urge strikes. A Lexan jar that will hold about 1 quart (uncompressed) will make enough Perique for one person's pipe tobacco blending needs for a year.
Bob
My opinion is that the pressure process overwhelms the varietal nuance. Yes, there are subtle differences from using different varieties, but they are quite subtle.
In 2013, I used Bolivia Criollo Black for Perique. When air-cured and kilned, this variety has a distinctive aroma and taste that subsides only slowly with time. As Perique, it just smells and smokes like Saint James Parish Perique. (Sorry, Louisiana.) I have not tried using a named cigar variety.
My suggestion is to make your own Perique with whatever leaf you happen to have color-cured when the urge strikes. A Lexan jar that will hold about 1 quart (uncompressed) will make enough Perique for one person's pipe tobacco blending needs for a year.
Bob
forumdotabaco
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hi I have a question till now i was convinced that Perique was the name of the final product, but I've see to many times people naming seeds as Perique is this correct? what string is used in Perique?
There is a strain of seed called "Perique". It is what is used to make Perique commercially. Several seed suppliers sell it.This is sometimes confusing- Perique is the name of a tobacco cultivar and it is also the name of a process to ferment tobacco anaerobically.
forumdotabaco
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ok thank you.
BriarRabbit
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Wow. No need to reply to all the replies on my comment because that's all I can say: wow. Here I thought all this time that SJP had the corner on the Perique market as the only place that grows it; and then it turns out that it's more about the process than the varietal put in the jar/bucket/barrel.
Btw... that Kuhn Rikon knife is no longer at Amazon and while it took me a bit, I found it at http://www.factorydirect2you.com/kuhn-rikon-kulu-knife-large-red.html ... it's been ordered
Btw... that Kuhn Rikon knife is no longer at Amazon and while it took me a bit, I found it at http://www.factorydirect2you.com/kuhn-rikon-kulu-knife-large-red.html ... it's been ordered
I just did a google search for Kuhn Rikon Kulu. They are still available at a few places (be careful to get the 6" [large], rather than the smaller one), but it appears to have been discontinued. Anybody who has thought about buying a kulu to use as a chaveta better get one now. They're running about $20 everywhere I could find them.
Bob
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Desertpipe
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Some day I will have to have a pipe friend set up a blind test with the three kinds of Perique I am familiar with, and see if I can tell the difference. I have been fond of VaPer's for quite some time, and have explored these three types.
St. James Perique - tobacco grown in SJ Parish
Acadian Perique - Tobacco grown outside SH Parish, but inside Mississippi
AB Perique, which I think stands for Acadian Burley Perique, and my understanding is Kentucky/Tennessee leaf sourced
Within these three types, there are differences that can be noted when added to the same base blend.
BriarRabbit.....thanks for the link to that knife.
St. James Perique - tobacco grown in SJ Parish
Acadian Perique - Tobacco grown outside SH Parish, but inside Mississippi
AB Perique, which I think stands for Acadian Burley Perique, and my understanding is Kentucky/Tennessee leaf sourced
Within these three types, there are differences that can be noted when added to the same base blend.
BriarRabbit.....thanks for the link to that knife.
Wow. No need to reply to all the replies on my comment because that's all I can say: wow. Here I thought all this time that SJP had the corner on the Perique market as the only place that grows it; and then it turns out that it's more about the process than the varietal put in the jar/bucket/barrel.
Btw... that Kuhn Rikon knife is no longer at Amazon and while it took me a bit, I found it at http://www.factorydirect2you.com/kuhn-rikon-kulu-knife-large-red.html ... it's been ordered
One seller on Amazon sold out. Another seller still has a couple of them: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003D6CEP2...TF8&colid=13VBKGVGUSMWU&coliid=I1CZHNMNT0LFHU
Also still available directly from the manufacturer in Switzerland. $14.00 plus shipping. http://us.kuhnrikon.com/us/en/produ...ves.html#21841f9a-4166-41c5-a5b4-4dd67403a9e9
jojjas
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Nope. $14 buys you the tiny one. Be sure to select the 6" knife in the dropdown. It's $20, and comes from Kuhn Rikon's US site.
Bob
I can attest to the Kuhn Rikon. I bought one about 2 years ago and have not used my Chaveta since!. It's also great for cutting a tobacco brick
In addition to the kulu, which I hold by the riser, rather than the handle:
Kuhn Rikon has just introduced a mezzaluna:
which I have not tried. The radius of curvature on the mezzaluna seems a little too large for convenient use in cigar rolling, and the hand placement doesn't seem as advantageous, but for slicing thick press cake, it just might be better. The blade appears to also be 6".
Bob
Kuhn Rikon has just introduced a mezzaluna:
which I have not tried. The radius of curvature on the mezzaluna seems a little too large for convenient use in cigar rolling, and the hand placement doesn't seem as advantageous, but for slicing thick press cake, it just might be better. The blade appears to also be 6".
Bob
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