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Some Implications of Low Oil Prices

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The Big Story about Low Oil Prices

Yippee! Gas costs less. But, despite all the headline news about other geopolitical issues and crises, this is truly one to follow. And it's murky.

The whiz-bang graph below is nearly unreadable. Hidden within, are weighty implications for world stability. (The Financial Times article, linked below the graph, is worth reading, even though all the experts mostly waffle in their comments.)

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http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/3f5e4914-8490-11e4-ba4f-00144feabdc0.html

Basically, the countries with a red dot are in deep doodoo.

Who cares? Well, for starters, Russia is a belligerent, nuclear-armed nation which is presently feeling put-upon by the West. So, I'll use Russia as an example, to pick apart the data-rich graph. Where my labels state "oil," that includes all petroleum (oil, natural gas, petrochemicals).

OilWinnersAndLosers_Russia.jpg


The most shocking item is the break-even price per barrel. Today, for every barrel of oil exported by Russia, it costs them $105, but the world price is only $60. The larger the big red dot, the greater the impact of low prices. If oil exports are an insignificant percent of the national income, then that's not a major problem. For Russia, we see that oil exports are one half the total national income. Oops! But Russia's economy does other things (e.g. manufacturing for local consumption), so it only comes to 13.5% of the national economic activity. Russians support Putin, because times are good--well they were. Now the ruble has collapsed in value, interest rates are approaching 20%, and things are looking iffy.

By contrast, Venezuela has all of its eggs in one basket. Furthermore, nearly all of Venezuela's oil income is spent on social subsidies that encourage their people to support their government. Bad news for Venezuela. They spend all their oil income.

Saudi Arabia, which also looks grim on the graph, has for decades saved over half of their oil income, so they have tons of wiggle room. They can wait-out years of low oil prices.

I'll leave you to ponder the situations in Iran, Norway, Nigeria and Mexico.

The countries with a yellow dot are the winners, when oil prices are low.

Winners at the macro level obscure losers within their borders.
While the US economy as a whole benefits from low oil prices, many small oil producers can no longer make money. If the prices continue to fall, they will go out of business.

Take-home lesson:
  • Saudi Arabia will do fine
  • Venezuela may plunge into political chaos
  • Russia may lash out
  • A highly specialized economy carries the potential for both high profits and catastrophic loss
If you've read this far, you have earned one deluxe credit hour in Economics.

Bob
 

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Wow Deluxe.Ive never been one of those "doomsday" people..but with all the civil unrest here and the oil prices..to me sounds like a ticking-time bomb .boy hope Im wrong about this.

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when manufacturing in the usa left it was said ( ITS NOT PERSONAL IT'S BUSINESS). same thinking, whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
 

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Bob that is a funny thing I was reading this in the FT today as well. Some think the price could go as low as $40. I look at the countries that are going to find it hard, mind you it is a good way to bankrupt some countries without fighting. lets hope it don't get to messy !!!! I think Iran and Russia needs $100 plus a barrel
Just to keep their head above water plus the cuurreny exchange rates have fallen today as well.
 

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It's my understanding that the Saudi's are driving down prices to push some competitors out of business. One thing you can count on is that prices will go back up, it's just a matter of when.

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Being the suspicious type who can't trust the government or the mass media, I seem to be getting a vibe from mass media that it might be "patriotic" of us to root for higher oil prices, so we and our Russian friends aren't undercut and our extraction operations made unaffordable by that evil OPEC flooding the market. I never thought I'd see gas under $3 again in my lifetime. So, keep it up, OPEC, you're doing the American working stiff a favor.
 

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I think America is crazy for selling oil. The last country that has their own oil supplies could rule the world. Think about it. The last country with their own oil supplies will have the only military in the world with working tanks, planes, etc.

Not that it matters. Einstein predicted that World War III will be fought with sticks and stones.
 

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I think America is crazy for selling oil. The last country that has their own oil supplies could rule the world. Think about it. The last country with their own oil supplies will have the only military in the world with working tanks, planes, etc.

Not that it matters. Einstein predicted that World War III will be fought with sticks and stones.

Good point. And, we are selling the product of fracking--expensive process. As for Einstein, we haven't finished WW2 yet.
 

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Good observation DS.
There's always another side to each coin flipped.
I worked in the oil patch during a number of price adjustments. Some caused complete shutdown of all exploration, drilling, and production, other manipulations brought on a flurry of activity across the board.
I haven't taken an opportunity to look at the debt clock recently, but am sure we would have difficulty finding someone to finance the oil burned in any sort of major military action. It was loss of industrial capacity and fuel that stopped that feller with the funny mustache, back when. Well, and Russians. Piles of 'em.
Yup! Pretty much like that other fellow a few posts back... I never paid much attention to the negative talk about this, or that.
Reality sneaks in, after a while.
Hope the young folks are up to dealing with all the problems dumped in their lap.
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lol and now, Elon Musk says if we are not Very careful, Artificial Intelligence could be a significant problem for mankind in as little as five years, 10 on the outside.
He is one smart fellow.
 

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lol and now, Elon Musk says if we are not Very careful, Artificial Intelligence could be a significant problem for mankind in as little as five years, 10 on the outside.
He is one smart fellow.

Artificial intelligence! OMG, isn't human intelligence a big enough problem already? But yeah, Elon is right. The computers becoming conscious and uniting. The Cylons really are coming.

Try explaining to the robot how you didn't even get that letter you didn't respond to on time. I feel for the young people-hope they can rise to the awful challenges coming up. Me, I'll be outa here, lucky me, but till then, I'm keeping this tin foil hat taped on my naked skull.
 

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Yah, you're right, CT. I'll be settin' on the porch with a drink and a stogie when they come to get me... if I ain't out back layin between a couple rows of baccy plants with a spilled beer next to me.
That Elon Musk guy said people of the past prospered by seafaring. He feels our only hope is spacefaring. He could be right !
Considering just about everything these days is done digitally, (excepting Joe Biden, he's a real guy!), if that AI decides to send oil production to one place or the other, for it's own advantage, millions at the opposite place could die horrible deaths.
And I shouldn't say silly things like that about Good Ole Joe... but I did so I'll leave it there. Trey Gowdy has impressed me more than anyone recently. Just as long as we can keep 'she who's name shall be stricken from the books of history' out of the top slot in the corporation, we might have a chance.

The sticks & stones thing has been philosophically popular for quite some time.
It don't work.
Them fellers over in the sandlot have been causing a lot of ruckus with IED's though... and soueyside kaboomers.
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I'm not really laughing because it's not funny, but it's not unexpected. The oil patch has always gone from boom to bust, with a few winners and allot of losers. I only see it from the bottom of the pile, the trick is to save enough money to ride out the slow times. I'm pissed that diesel is a dollar more per gallon than regular gas, anybody that still uses oil heat is going to get bent over for another season.

Collapse of just a local economy is bad enough, I really feel for people that live where the national economy has been pinned to high oil prices. Oil consumer nations can breath a little easier, one mans loss is another mans gain.
 

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Yah, you're right, CT. I'll be settin' on the porch with a drink and a stogie when they come to get me... if I ain't out back layin between a couple rows of baccy plants with a spilled beer next to me.
That Elon Musk guy said people of the past prospered by seafaring. He feels our only hope is spacefaring. He could be right !
Considering just about everything these days is done digitally, (excepting Joe Biden, he's a real guy!), if that AI decides to send oil production to one place or the other, for it's own advantage, millions at the opposite place could die horrible deaths.
And I shouldn't say silly things like that about Good Ole Joe... but I did so I'll leave it there. Trey Gowdy has impressed me more than anyone recently. Just as long as we can keep 'she who's name shall be stricken from the books of history' out of the top slot in the corporation, we might have a chance.

The sticks & stones thing has been philosophically popular for quite some time.
It don't work.
Them fellers over in the sandlot have been causing a lot of ruckus with IED's though... and soueyside kaboomers.
Best
rc

rc, you should run for President. You get it all. I'd even vote for you, and I gave up voting for President in 1968
 

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Most of the 'Unconventional plays' Fracked and oil/tar sands have a low EROEI and high cost. They rely on high world prices to be viable, and many are in deep doodoo anyways.
Saudi keeping the taps open and price low, will cause many bankruptcy's and cut the bottom out of a lot of American and Canadian oil companies in particular.
Assuming the Saudis then jack up the price again once a bunch of foreign competitors go under, it is highly unlikely that there will be no finance forthcoming to re-open those marginal plays again.
 
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