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Actually, your humidity is very much the same as what I am getting in new zealand now,sometimes a little lower.

I'm trying to colour cure in the shed and Iv'e had the humidity drop to mid 50's mid day so I started up a humidifier which is struggling. I occasionally give the green leaf a mist of water and the humidity climbs very quick but drops very quick to.
 

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Yep. Yesterday morning my baccy hands were in perfect shredding case. Went to get some today and they are too dry to handle.
 

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The humidity in the shop was averaging 70%, now it's average is down in the 60's. The humidity in the basement stays at about 53%. Our temps and humidity are really starting to drop here now. My last leaf may have to be harvested slightly under ripe. I'm running the shop heater at night now, the temps are dropping into the mid 40'sF with day time high's at 70F. In about a week, the projected night temp will dip down to 34F with highs in the mid 60'sF and then start to climb again for awhile.
In my basement it stays at 63% I think I could keep tobacco down there for years...
 

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The humidity in the shop was averaging 70%, now it's average is down in the 60's. The humidity in the basement stays at about 53%. Our temps and humidity are really starting to drop here now. My last leaf may have to be harvested slightly under ripe. I'm running the shop heater at night now, the temps are dropping into the mid 40'sF with day time high's at 70F. In about a week, the projected night temp will dip down to 34F with highs in the mid 60'sF and then start to climb again for awhile.
You should be ok with the outside plants for a couple more weeks.
we have been in the mid sixtys and mid thirties at night and my plants are still growing the silver river is taking off.
i know I am pushing my luck. I might harvest them next weekend. Forecast looks good.
 

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You should be ok with the outside plants for a couple more weeks.
we have been in the mid sixtys and mid thirties at night and my plants are still growing the silver river is taking off.
i know I am pushing my luck. I might harvest them next weekend. Forecast looks good.

I feel pretty good about where I am right now. I may have to pull the last of my leaf in before it's fully ripe, but it will be the strongest leaf of each plant anyway, so it could stand being slightly milder and still be good. I was more worried about my seed crop, some of the plants have just been bagged, but Skychaser helped relieve some tension there. I think I'm going to just make it. I harvested the last of my Burley a couple of days ago, I haven't calculated it's age since transplant, but I think it's pushing 150 days. The rain early on really set me back.
 

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Update on my midrib drying on the heat mats. It's been slightly less than 4 hrs. since I piled the leaf on the heat mats for stem drying and all the lamina is already crispy dry. Even the leaf on top of the pile. I'm guessing the stems will be snapping by day after tomorrow. This is really going to speed things up and keep the line moving. I'll have more to come in from outside in a couple of days. I've been bringing them in at night after the dew while the lamina is moist and very pliable so I could stretch out the leaf to pile it for stem drying. The lamina has been drying crispy dry during the day in the sun, then going back into case at night. The heat mats are going to really be a help. I am so looking forward to next year just to put all I've learned into practice from the get go.
 

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Update on my midrib drying on the heat mats. It's been slightly less than 4 hrs. since I piled the leaf on the heat mats for stem drying and all the lamina is already crispy dry. Even the leaf on top of the pile. I'm guessing the stems will be snapping by day after tomorrow. This is really going to speed things up and keep the line moving. I'll have more to come in from outside in a couple of days. I've been bringing them in at night after the dew while the lamina is moist and very pliable so I could stretch out the leaf to pile it for stem drying. The lamina has been drying crispy dry during the day in the sun, then going back into case at night. The heat mats are going to really be a help. I am so looking forward to next year just to put all I've learned into practice from the get go.
That might be too quick of a dry. Bob wrote somewhere that certai. Processes of the leaf drying need to take place before drying. I think he said that this is true of white stem varieties because they have less chlorophyll when they first turn yellow those processes haven't completed.
 

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That might be too quick of a dry. Bob wrote somewhere that certai. Processes of the leaf drying need to take place before drying. I think he said that this is true of white stem varieties because they have less chlorophyll when they first turn yellow those processes haven't completed.

Are you referring to the stem drying or the sun curing?
Sun Curing - I am letting them fully yellow in the shop before I move them out to the sun. During the yellow stage, they are staying pliable and moist. After browning, the lamina will dry crispy brown in the sun. I leave them out about two more days after drying and they alternate between crispy brown in the afternoons to moist and pliable at night. I'm just leaving them outside the whole time and they get dewed on at night and the days are getting shorter so the stems aren't drying. I'm bringing them inside to dry the stems. I was drying them naturally in the basement at around 70F, 53% humidity with a dehumidifier running and a ceiling fan going 24/7. It's taking about a week to ten days to fully dry the stem.
Stem Drying with heat mat - I decided to try to speed the stem drying with the heat mat. There is no thermostat but the instructions said they will heat about 10F over ambient. The instructions didn't say if this meant the mat, the air, the soil or what. The leaf at this point is moist because I bring them in at night for handling and preparation for stem drying. I think at this point all I'm really drying is the stem. The leaf should be cured. The lamina has already been through 2-3 cycles of crispy dry then brought back into case at night by the dew and higher humidity.

My earlier description left out a lot of detail. I was more interested in relating my heat mat experience. I sure don't want to damage the leaf in any way. Look over my whole process and let me know if this is a possibility.
 

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Are you referring to the stem drying or the sun curing?
Sun Curing - I am letting them fully yellow in the shop before I move them out to the sun. During the yellow stage, they are staying pliable and moist. After browning, the lamina will dry crispy brown in the sun. I leave them out about two more days after drying and they alternate between crispy brown in the afternoons to moist and pliable at night. I'm just leaving them outside the whole time and they get dewed on at night and the days are getting shorter so the stems aren't drying. I'm bringing them inside to dry the stems. I was drying them naturally in the basement at around 70F, 53% humidity with a dehumidifier running and a ceiling fan going 24/7. It's taking about a week to ten days to fully dry the stem.
Stem Drying with heat mat - I decided to try to speed the stem drying with the heat mat. There is no thermostat but the instructions said they will heat about 10F over ambient. The instructions didn't say if this meant the mat, the air, the soil or what. The leaf at this point is moist because I bring them in at night for handling and preparation for stem drying. I think at this point all I'm really drying is the stem. The leaf should be cured. The lamina has already been through 2-3 cycles of crispy dry then brought back into case at night by the dew and higher humidity.

My earlier description left out a lot of detail. I was more interested in relating my heat mat experience. I sure don't want to damage the leaf in any way. Look over my whole process and let me know if this is a possibility.
Oh I see, you're just stem drying on the mat. After sun curing. My mistake. That shouldn't be a problem at all. Your process sounds really good. Innovative, too. It will be interesting to see the results of sun-curing non Turkish varieties.

The only sun curing I'm doing is my two Rustica plants, since I couldn't get them to yellow. I'm just leaving the leaves on the plant until they cure.
 

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Oh I see, you're just stem drying on the mat. After sun curing. My mistake. That shouldn't be a problem at all. Your process sounds really good. Innovative, too. It will be interesting to see the results of sun-curing non Turkish varieties.

The only sun curing I'm doing is my two Rustica plants, since I couldn't get them to yellow. I'm just leaving the leaves on the plant until they cure.

JBD and leverhead have both sun cured flue cure varieties. Both of them said the cured leaf was sweeter than air cured, but not quite as sweet as flue cured. It sounded like I might be satisfied with almost, so I'm giving it a try to see if I need to build a flue cure chamber this winter or a kiln only. I'm hoping for kiln only. :eek:
 

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Try the kiln in a few hours it could be ready to go, load it and give a month, remove and try it, than if happy stop. Unless you want great adventure (MHO).
 

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Oh I see, you're just stem drying on the mat. After sun curing. My mistake. That shouldn't be a problem at all. Your process sounds really good. Innovative, too. It will be interesting to see the results of sun-curing non Turkish varieties.

The only sun curing I'm doing is my two Rustica plants, since I couldn't get them to yellow. I'm just leaving the leaves on the plant until they cure.

If sun curing turns out to taste sweeter than air curing flue cure varieties, it would be a good way to supplement the output of a Cozy Can Flue Cure chamber if someone was to go overboard with a Virginia grow, or if the leaf was ripening faster than the Can could handle. (Not that any of us would ever go overboard doing anything)

Try the kiln in a few hours it could be ready to go, load it and give a month, remove and try it, than if happy stop. Unless you want great adventure (MHO).

Yeah, I need to be on the lookout for a freezer or something. Man, I'm getting too old for Great Adventures, and Road Trips, and Double Dog Dares, and Hey, Watch This Shit. doh.gif
 

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The time has come to raise the humidity in my shop. Running the heater at night is keeping the humidity down at night, so my average humidity has fallen off quite a bit. I'm thinking about setting a 1/2 GPH drip emitter on top of a ladder with a sheet hanging down the ladder and the fan blowing across it. This should be a low maintenance solution as long as 1/2 GPH doesn't flood the shop. Any ideas or suggestions? The shop is 24X30 with 8' ceilings and insulated. How quickly will 1/2 GPH evaporate?
 

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There are too many variables to tell. You could set a bowl of hot water on the floor, aim a fan at it, and be good. The fan should be moved closer or farther depending on what you need.
The time has come to raise the humidity in my shop. Running the heater at night is keeping the humidity down at night, so my average humidity has fallen off quite a bit. I'm thinking about setting a 1/2 GPH drip emitter on top of a ladder with a sheet hanging down the ladder and the fan blowing across it. This should be a low maintenance solution as long as 1/2 GPH doesn't flood the shop. Any ideas or suggestions? The shop is 24X30 with 8' ceilings and insulated. How quickly will 1/2 GPH evaporate?
 

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Well, they've changed the forecast again. It's supposed to get down to 28F Friday night. I guess I better pull my leaf in, ready or not. It's going to warm up right after that, I think if I put some plastic shopping bags over my bud bags that the seed should be okay that one night. But it won't be long.......
 

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Well, they've changed the forecast again. It's supposed to get down to 28F Friday night. I guess I better pull my leaf in, ready or not. It's going to warm up right after that, I think if I put some plastic shopping bags over my bud bags that the seed should be okay that one night. But it won't be long.......
We've already gone down to 28 a few times and the two plants I still have in the ground with seed bags on are fine. Even the pair of leaves I left on them survived fine. But it's good to be on the safe side.
 

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Well, they've changed the forecast again. It's supposed to get down to 28F Friday night. I guess I better pull my leaf in, ready or not. It's going to warm up right after that, I think if I put some plastic shopping bags over my bud bags that the seed should be okay that one night. But it won't be long.......

You are welcome to bring that dark green stuff over Saturday. We can put it in the chamber and watch football.
 
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