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NeotarDrew

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I was trying to take a picture of the instructions that came with Dons new electric shredder that states to clean with running hot water without soaps. It keeps saying the image is to large though.

Actually, you would absolutely *not want to do this. In every town & city the water is different, especially well water locations come to mind like my old house in the country. All have minerals at varying levels, hard water levels, blablabla. The thing that came to my mind over the holiday is to microwave a Pyrex measuring cup (say the 4 cup/6 cup size, etc.) and use purified water or distilled water. Unplug the thing, hold it over the shower/bathtub at an angle (facing down away from the motor of course) and pour the (near) boiling water through the unit slowly.

Dry it off with a cheap hair dryer, put in on your desk/table, then "bead" a thin line of vegetable oil (like one uses mineral oil on paper shredders per their instructions) along the cutter blades, then turn it on and cycle through the blades in each direction for a few seconds.

Using normal tap water or well water with its minerals in tact would bring on the possibility of friction, future rust, and/or harm the blades on a microscopic level. Is there anyone here that can tell me if we are on the right track? I had thought about this intently for days and we just want to maintain the thing since it's not everyday you dump hundreds of dollars on something.

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I was just saying what the instructions say to do. You said you did not get the instructions with your shredder, and I did. I do not recommend doing anything that you feel is wrong. I emailed Don and he is correcting the instructions. I feel like any info you find on this site is at you own risk also. I have learned alot on this forum and do all the advice at my own risk. It's a great shredder though. Clean it the best way you find fit. Happy smoking yall.
 

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You should have gotten an instruction sheet with the shredder. We had 100 of these shredders made as a test run. There are a couple of minor issues with the shredder that will be addressed with the next batch. Because it is an electric device, we have to tell you not to use water or any other liquid to clean the cutters. The shredders have few moving parts, so there isn't much to explain.
Strip the tobacco. Do not put the mid-rib in the shredder.
Turn the shredder on in the forward direction. You'll know it's in forward by the direction the cutters turn.
Put the tobacco in the shredder.
If the shredder becomes jammed, switch it to reverse to free the jam.
It's pretty much just common sense stuff like that.

I can write pages of safety warnings to go with the shredder, but this takes time and money. Does anyone want to pay to read things they already know?
No we do not
 

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I do not recommend doing anything that you feel is wrong.
You comment is noted, but obvious.

Here's my thoughts:
In business, selling a shredder only needs a small disclaimer. It needs to be worded correctly. It's done all the time. If it comes with a warranty, that too needs a disclaimer (if or when it might be returned for whatever reason).

On the customer side:
Using a shredder is commonsensical. If a person cannot figure out something so simple, they either a). had no upbringing, or b.) they were raised in the woods by a pack of wolves.

Cleaning a shredder is not-so-commonsensical. Rubbing alcohol, hot vodka, scalding water, etc. have all been floated around the internet. Re: water itself, is it hard water? Is it well water? If it's treated with a water softener (a decent amount of homes are) then 95% of all water softeners rely on salts (we had to pour big bags of it into our well tanks in the country, etc.). Other city homes have smaller water softener "units" that still run off of salts, and salts are the last thing you want around shredder blades or gears.

One thing I know with certainty is this. When I was in my younger years, we had to clean our "water pipes" from time-to-time [insert smiley face here], and one thing that always did the trick (from the resin/gummy stuff) was a product we have in the States called "Goo Gone" - many here know what this is. It's just an extract of heavy citrus. Lemon juice does the same trick. Any housewife knows this when cleaning greasy, gummy crap that's been 'baked' on things.

After thinking about this for a while tonight, it's obvious there's never going to be an answer on the business end. Writing up some cleverly worded disclaimers would solve this dilemma that businesses run into depending on the product they sell.

The best way to solve this is to actually pretend you - yes you - are the gummy stuff. What you be your enemy? What would it take for you to let go of those blades, while keeping the integrity of the blades in perfect condition? What's your Kryptonite?

One thing's for sure, you would only use distilled or purified water, that's commonsensical. Depending on the TDS in your tap water, or the amount of hardness (think calcium and magnesium), this would/could have a detrimental effect running it through the blades - especially if treated with salts/softeners.

If anyone has seen these blades through a microscope, one can see the invisible-to-the-naked-eye wear & tear the blades go through over time. Some of the dark tobacco varieties, fire cured, etc. have an obvious feel to them in the hand that anyone will know right away is going to sooner-or-later gum up that machine.

Common sense is really a moot point here. What should be talked about - especially in the type of forum and the topic it represents - are solutions. If there is anyone reading this that would like to brainstorm actual solutions, let me know. From a business standpoint, this can easily be fixed. Talk to the makers (usually a friggin Chinese company), or explain how to clean from personal experience alone, and write up a couple of disclaimers before the sale, and be done with it. A product of this nature obviously cannot come with an "All Sales Final" disclaimer, but what it can do is explain how to clean it, then add a disclaimer at the bottom of the instructions.

My "water" points above should also be mentioned because one home's water is not another home's water.

Mission accomplished = happy customers
 
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Post Addendum:

I'm starting to think - after I wrote that last post - that a simple store-bought lemon juice (hint: it's already been filtered), diluted with let's say 50/50 distilled water would do the trick. Actually, it wouldn't have to be hot (but could be), and voila. If enough is poured through, --> left to sit for some minutes, then more cold (or hot) plain water would be poured through (and possibly repeat the process), that would take off any gummy residue. You could also conceivably actually use GooGone, but hey, lemon juice (the kind you buy at the store for lemonade, cakes, pies) is cheaper, and possibly more effective.

Depending on the last cleaning time and the amount of leaves put through (fired? bright? Kentucky dark?), this would dictate how strong the solution would end up being (funny to think about, but this step actually becomes common sense). It would be harmless to the blades, the gummy stuff would dissolve, and the nice clean water poured through at the end would mean happy blades.

One just needs a cheap hair dryer to dry it off as quickly as possible. A bead of oil would keep the blades purring like a sleeping kitten after that.

PS - I should be paid for these last two posts..
 

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The issue at hand is not about your water source or minerals or appropriate solvents. It is the engineering issue of whether or not the electrical components of the electric shredder are physically isolated from the shredding mechanism. All the assorted approaches to cleaning tobacco shredders discussed elsewhere on the forum are effective and well tested, but only if you are using a mechanical, externally cranked shredder.

My food processor (and my washing machine) are electric. But they are compartmentalized designs that assume the equipment will be used with water. I have no specific information on the design(s) of the electric tobacco shredder(s), but I will leap to the conclusion that their designer(s) did not assume that that the shredder(s) would be exposed to liquids.

Another issue with all shredders is that they were not designed to easily disassemble and reassemble—an approach that would render the electrical aspect moot.

Bob
 
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