Twist or Rope recipes

[karam]

Stunning documentary. The product and the specific methods are not nearly as fascinating as the truly wild, hazardous, ingenious machinery, much of which dates back hundreds of years, yet was still in operation in the mid 20th century. There are many cringe-worthy moments when operators carefully insert their hands or arms deep into massive moving parts that likely have removed an arm or two from time to time. No guards or shields or safety cut-off switches. Just relentless motion and momentum.

Removable steel drum doors that are attached with one-off, hand made bolts and matching nuts--that can't be exchanged with each other. This machinery is from the birth of the industrial revolution, and shows various designs of a single source of powered motion being mechanically distributed throughout an entire factory building.

Thank you for posting it.

Bob

Glad people here like it, it's quite famous in the pipe forum! I love how they intersperse the factory documentary to show pictures of cows and fields

In fact the snuff mortar and pestle mills are supposed to be the oldest industrial machinery in continuous operation in Britain, since Napoleon was alive: https://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/13799418.snuff-firms-in-historic-merger/ They were originally designed to grind gunpowder and then repurposed to grind tobacco. As far as I understand the snuff was still made in the same machines from the time George Washington was alive to just a couple of years ago.

 

[deluxestogie]

They were originally designed to grind gunpowder and then repurposed to grind tobacco.

Wonderful bit of history. And it makes sense.

Bob

 

[plantdude]

Mycotoxins are not found in the direct or side-stream smoke of moldy tobacco. Vinegar does not destroy mycotoxins. So avoid using moldy leaf for smokeless tobacco and for wrappers.

Bob

Thanks for clarifying that Bob, that is important information to know.

 

[Krausen89]

Fronto twist i did up lastnight. Used 50/50 molasses syrup alcohol concoction / water and i used a pastry bush and coated each leaf. Cased wrapper in water and then once twisted i coated the whole thing with remainder of mixture

 

[Krausen89]

So i used Fronto because that is what i had alot of. it was low grade fronto so i pulled out all the really good wrapper leaves used the lighter ones as filler and dark to wrap it. Has anyone ever chewed fronto? it worked really well for that i used it for but i am interested how it will turn out in the pipe or as chew. from my understanding it is a dark air cured so i thought it would work well. had a decent cigar smell to it. i let it sit in a ziplock bag overnight but now i am drying it out a bit and letting all the alcohol evaporate. was thinking about stoving it to help with evaporation but will hold off until i get to try it first. hopefully with the alcohol and water content it shouldnt mold or go bad.

 

[smoknron]

Fronto twist i did up lastnight. Used 50/50 molasses syrup alcohol concoction / water and i used a pastry bush and coated each leaf. Cased wrapper in water and then once twisted i coated the whole thing with remainder of mixture

Did you get to try it yet in a pipe or chew ? Looks like you did a good job with it. I was watching that video where the woman that was making the twist, overlapped the ends of each strip like somebody pointed out. Gawith, Hoggarth, and Samuel Gawith companies make miles of rope/twist I'm sure.

 

[Krausen89]

Did you get to try it yet in a pipe or chew ? Looks like you did a good job with it. I was watching that video where the woman that was making the twist, overlapped the ends of each strip like somebody pointed out. Gawith, Hoggarth, and Samuel Gawith companies make miles of rope/twist I'm sure.

i have not tried the twist yet though i did try some of the scraps that i made into chew and it was pretty bitter. i have been drying it and then bagging to get the moisture level right. i dont want it to mold. i might try it sometime soon but i will be sure to be back with how it turned out

 

[Davo]

Once fully dried I’ve heard of some people jarring twists and then processing for 10hours in crockpot to kill any mold before storage as an extra precaution. Haven’t looked into it just relaying information

 

[karam]

i have not tried the twist yet though i did try some of the scraps that i made into chew and it was pretty bitter. i have been drying it and then bagging to get the moisture level right. i dont want it to mold. i might try it sometime soon but i will be sure to be back with how it turned out

That sounds like a shame, considering the molasses/syrup basting. Then again I know nothing about chewing tobacco, I just don't like anything bitter.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

I think you add acid to counteract bitter. Sweet is used to counteract sour. I might be wrong.

 

[deluxestogie]

Dip the tip of your little finger into straight molasses, then taste it.

Bob

 

[Matthew Evans]

Dip the tip of your little finger into straight molasses, then taste it.

Bob

Makes a big difference if it's light, dark or black strap molasses as well. There's plenty of bitter along with the sweet, going up a lot the darker it gets. They all go great on cornbread.

Now I'm curious as to if anyone has used sorghum. . .

I get a bit of a molasses smell and taste from warhorse bar, which I really do like, but that's the only pipe tobacco ive gotten it from.

Red man silver pouch has a molasses and raisin taste if I'm recalling it rightly. It is, or was, purportedly the "processed sugar free" version from world war ii, but that could be purely anecdotal. I don't chew much anymore, and was always more of a plug guy than pouch, so my memory may be a bit off.

 

[Krausen89]

Dont have weights but Canadian VA, Basma, and latakia, base layer and wrapped in Maryland 609

 

[Krausen89]

8g VA flue
8g MD 609
6g basma
2g latakia
Wrapped in cigar leaf (low grade cigar wrapper)

Cased with
- 1 Tbls molasses
- 1 tsp vanilla (watkins vanilla flavor)
- 1 Tbls Apple cider vinegar (ac vinegar with honey)
- Top up to 2cups with warm water and dissolve


Order
1 VA flue
2 MD 609
3 Basma
4 Uncased(water) latakia broken up
5 Wrap in uncased(water) cigar leaf of choice
( i use assorted low grade binder)

Initial weight 34g