Tobacco from China!

[Yang!]

Hello, friends, I come from China
Let me introduce some tobacco leaves from China

 

[Yang!]

第一种是来自中国四川的烟草，它的外观很黑，而且很结实，可以用作雪茄的核心 [The first is the tobacco from Sichuan, China. It has a very dark appearance and is very strong. It can be used as the core of a cigar.]

 

[Yang!]

The Chinese name is 糊米烟 ["Rice smoke"].When the leaves are ripe, the farmers pick them, dry them, fry the rice, add water, and pour the liquid over the leaves, which are then piled up and fermented for four to five months

 

[Yang!]

The second tobacco is Oriental tobacco, a fragrant tobacco from Yunnan, China.

 

[Yang!]

The third is leaf tobacco from China's Jilin province, which is suitable for cigar wrappers and can be smoked as a cigarette on its own.It's very soft, with hints of hawthorn and lemon acidity and a soft lambskin texture.

 

[peterd]

The Chinese name is 糊米烟

rice paste smoke (tobacco)?

 

[roman1967]

rice paste smoke (tobacco)?

in my opinion just "Rice smoke"

 

[roman1967]

The second tobacco is Oriental tobacco, a fragrant tobacco from Yunnan, China.

and this is by chance not the one that is called the "silver river"

 

[Knucklehead]

The third is leaf tobacco from China's Jilin province, which is suitable for cigar wrappers and can be smoked as a cigarette on its own.It's very soft, with hints of hawthorn and lemon acidity and a soft lambskin texture.

Your leaves are very nice, but I thought the wrapper leaf from Jilin province was especially beautiful. Nice photo, thanks for posting.

 

[Knucklehead]

The second tobacco is Oriental tobacco, a fragrant tobacco from Yunnan, China.

An article on the production of tobacco in Yunnan.

China Tobacco International (HK) Company Limited

Chinese Name: 中煙國際（香港）有限公司 (Incorporated in Hong Kong with limited liability) (Stock code: 6055) English Name: China Tobacco International (HK) Company Limited (1) Resignation of Executive Director, General Manager, and Authorized Representative (2) Appointment of General Manager and Authorized...

www.yunnanexploration.com

Tobacco Asia Magazine. (new to me)

Tobacco Asia magazine Tobacco Industry magazine reporting on cigarettes, e-cigarettes, cigars, RYO, bidis, kretek, cigarillos, chewing tobacco, tobacco equipment, tobacco machinery, tobacco packaging machinery, make-pack machines, news, Indonesia an

Tobacco Asia Magazine is the leading tobacco Industry magazine for manufacturers of tobacco products and the leading wholesale/distribution trade. Reporting on equipment, machinery, supplies, services, tobacco leaf and tobacco products including cigarettes, e-cigarettes, cigars, Indonesia and...

www.tobaccoasia.com

Nice photos in the article “Sustainable Tobacco Farming” - Tobacco Asia Magazine

Sustainable Tobacco Farming

Sustainability initiatives are an important part of modern tobacco farming. Tobacco Asia talks to two major suppliers about their respective programs.

www.tobaccoasia.com

 

[deluxestogie]

@Yang! , do you know what type of oil was used to fry the rice for "Rice smoke" [ 糊米烟 ]?

Bob

 

[Yang!]

米糊烟（烟草）？
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用烧过的大米腌制的烟草

 

[Yang!]

@Yang!，你知道“米烟”[糊米烟]是用什么油来炒饭的吗？

鲍勃

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晒干的烟叶只是半成品，必须经过堆垛发酵。发酵后的烟草称为“白烟”，再经过加工、着色即为成品。干烟叶内含物未完全转化，颜色不够均匀。通过积累提高温度可以进一步分解和转化烟叶中的成分，去除烟叶的青腥味，促进烟叶口感醇厚，减少辛辣味。通过积累发酵，还可以增强烟叶的弹性和燃烧力。但是，如果发酵过度，则会降低质量。发酵应在干燥室内进行。烟叶堆放在离地33厘米以上的木架上。架子上应铺3～6cm厚的稻草，堆垛周围应盖上草帘、麻袋等覆盖物，以提高堆垛温度。发酵方法分为三个步骤。首先，将卷成螺旋状的卷烟叠放在烟架上，叶柄朝外，尖端朝内，叠放高度170～200cm，叠好后盖紧。手插入桩中3~4天后，感觉达到人体温度时翻转桩。翻面时，将上面的烟叶翻到下面，把里面的烟叶翻到外面，然后堆放2～3天。其次，将烟丝从绳子上取下来，一片一片地折叠起来，然后扎成1~1.5kg，在烟架上堆放6~7天，如果烟囱内温度过高，则将烟囱翻转一次。最后将烟叶按位置和质量打捆，每把约0.5kg。然后叠放在烟架上发酵10天左右。如果发现水太多或温度太高，转动烟囱，使水达到规定的标准（约20%），然后发酵完成。烟草加工。川毛烟、柳烟烘干后，通常采用特殊的加工方法，使烟叶进一步发酵，消除和减少青杂气，改善风味，减少辣味，增强燃烧力，使颜色更红更香。色泽鲜艳，可长期保存。加工方法有糊米水加工和红米汁加工两种。糊米水处理方法。糊米水加工的最佳季节是秋季的“秋分”到“寒露”，春季的“春分”到“清明”。米糊水的制作是将大米在铁窝里炒15分钟左右，每50kg烟叶用5～6kg大米。用中火将米饭翻炒至变黄，然后用大火翻炒。待米饭膨胀成黑色块状后，用中火翻炒至米饭炒成黑色块状，用手用手将米饭的内芯还有些发黑。注意米糊只能炒成“炭”，否则会失去米糊的功能。如果没有彻底炒熟，煮熟后会很粘。如果淋在烟叶上，烟叶会粘在一起，不容易把烟叶弄直撕破。米糊炸好后，立即倒入准备好的热水锅中，用5kg大米和15kg水煮10分钟左右，待水呈深褐色，过滤冷却。用波美比重计测试时，浓度应在8°到10°之间。米糊水里不要渗入水、盐或油，否则会造成烂烟。米糊水的温度受季节控制。夏季温度高，应彻底冷却水；冬天气温低时，水要温热，不要太烫；春秋两季可略热。目的是为再发酵提供合适的温度。淋时注意不要糊米渣，否则也会造成烂烟。浸过米糊水的烟柄应立即堆放并盖好。一般堆放20~40天。温度高则时间短，反之则长。堆放2~10天后，用手插入。如果你觉得暖和不热，你可以把堆翻过来。第二次和第三次翻转之间的间隔逐渐减小，直到反应器中的温度降低。加工后的烟叶在握持烟柄时有弹性，松开后可恢复；握住香烟，将刀尖向上竖起，刀刃缓缓落下；闻无水味；颜色是红色，

 

[Yang!]

而这恰好不是所谓的“银河”
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银河是什么意思？

 

[roman1967]

I understand that at first we get rice paste, but with further frying it turns black?
But then I did not understand, pour water again so that the fried rice lump dissolves in it?

 

[deluxestogie]

Translation of @Yang!'s previous post:

Sun-dried tobacco leaves are only semi-finished products and must be stacked and fermented. The fermented tobacco is called "white smoke", and is processed and colored to become the finished product. The contents of the dried tobacco leaf are not completely transformed, and the color is not uniform enough. By accumulating and increasing the temperature, the components in the tobacco leaves can be further decomposed and converted, the green smell of the tobacco leaves can be removed, the taste of the tobacco leaves can be promoted, and the pungent taste can be reduced. Through accumulation and fermentation, the elasticity and burning power of tobacco leaves can also be enhanced. However, if the fermentation is excessive, the quality will be reduced. Fermentation should be carried out in a dry room. The tobacco leaves are stacked on wooden racks 33 cm above the ground. The shelf should be covered with 3-6cm thick straw, and the stack should be covered with straw curtains, sack and other coverings to increase the stacking temperature. The fermentation method is divided into three steps. First, stack the spirally rolled cigarettes on the cigarette holder, with the petiole facing outwards and the tip facing inward, with a stacking height of 170-200cm, and then cover it tightly. After inserting the hand into the pile for 3 to 4 days, turn the pile when you feel the temperature of the human body. When turning over, turn the tobacco leaves from the top to the bottom, and turn the tobacco leaves inside to the outside, and then stack them for 2 to 3 days. Secondly, remove the shredded tobacco from the rope, fold it piece by piece, and then tie it into 1~1.5kg, and stack it on the smoke rack for 6~7 days. If the temperature in the chimney is too high, turn the chimney once. Finally, the tobacco leaves are bundled according to position and quality, each about 0.5kg. Then they are stacked on a tobacco rack and fermented for about 10 days. If you find that there is too much water or the temperature is too high, turn the chimney to make the water reach the specified standard (about 20%), and then the fermentation is completed. Tobacco processing. After the Chuanmao tobacco and willow tobacco are dried, special processing methods are usually used to further ferment the tobacco leaves, eliminate and reduce the green impurities, improve the flavor, reduce the spiciness, enhance the burning power, and make the color more red and more fragrant. Bright color, can be stored for a long time. There are two processing methods: glutinous rice water processing and red rice juice processing. The treatment method of glutinous rice water. The best season for the processing of glutinous rice water is from "autumnal equinox" to "cold dew" in autumn, and from "vernal equinox" to "qingming" in spring. The production of rice glutinous water is to stir-fry the rice in the iron nest for about 15 minutes, and use 5 to 6 kg of rice for every 50 kg of tobacco leaves. Stir-fry the rice over medium heat until it turns yellow, then stir-fry over high heat. After the rice swells into a black lump, stir fry over medium heat until the rice becomes a black lump, and the inner core of the rice is still a little black by hand. Note that the rice cereal can only be fried into "charcoal", otherwise the function of the rice cereal will be lost. If it is not thoroughly cooked, it will be sticky when cooked. If it is poured on the tobacco leaves, the tobacco leaves will stick together and it is not easy to straighten the tobacco leaves and tear them. After the rice paste is fried, immediately pour it into the prepared hot water pot, cook with 5kg rice and 15kg water for about 10 minutes, wait until the water turns dark brown, filter and cool. When testing with a Baume hydrometer, the concentration should be between 8° and 10°. Do not let water, salt or oil infiltrate the rice paste water, otherwise it will cause smoke. The temperature of rice paste water is controlled by the season. When the temperature is high in summer, the water should be cooled thoroughly; when the temperature is low in winter, the water should be warm and not too hot; it can be slightly hot in spring and autumn. The purpose is to provide a suitable temperature for re-fermentation. Be careful not to paste the rice dregs when it is poured, otherwise it will cause rotten smoke. Tobacco handles soaked in rice paste water should be stacked and covered immediately. It is generally stacked for 20-40 days. High temperature means short time, and vice versa. After stacking for 2 to 10 days, insert it by hand. If you feel warm and not hot, you can turn the pile over. The interval between the second and third inversions gradually decreases until the temperature in the reactor decreases. The processed tobacco leaves are elastic when holding the handle, and can be restored after loosening; hold the cigarette, raise the tip of the knife up, and the blade will slowly fall; it smells no water; the color is red,...​

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I appreciate your reply. I find it quite tedious to translate posts from other languages. As a forum, we request that all posts be in English, or accompanied by an English translation.

Bob

 

[roman1967]

而这恰好不是所谓的“银河”
[/引用]
银河是什么意思？

Google translates incorrectly into Chinese
What is the name of the variety of your Oriental tobacco

 

[roman1967]

the preparation of rice water is not very clear, but it would be very interesting to watch a video of the process

 

[roman1967]

Stick with paste rice water manufacture craft

CN104188092B - Stick with paste rice water manufacture craft - Google Patents

The invention discloses and a kind of stick with paste rice water manufacture craft, comprise the following steps: paste rice is put into frying pan, to be stir-fried by paste rice 4-5 minute with the little fire of kettle temperature 160 DEG C-180 DEG C, stir-fry frequency 20-30 beat/min...

patents.google.com

Method for fermenting Humao tobacco

CN101731745B - Method for fermenting Humao tobacco - Google Patents

A method of fermenting Humao tobacco, comprising the steps of: a. preparing the burnt rice juice; b. preparing an activated polygalacturonic acid hydrolase reagent; c. spraying rice paste juice on tobacco stalks, d, spraying a polygalacturonic acid hydrolase reagent on the tobacco stalks, e...

patents.google.com

 

[Yang!]

Translation of @Yang!'s previous post:

Sun-dried tobacco leaves are only semi-finished products and must be stacked and fermented. The fermented tobacco is called "white smoke", and is processed and colored to become the finished product. The contents of the dried tobacco leaf are not completely transformed, and the color is not uniform enough. By accumulating and increasing the temperature, the components in the tobacco leaves can be further decomposed and converted, the green smell of the tobacco leaves can be removed, the taste of the tobacco leaves can be promoted, and the pungent taste can be reduced. Through accumulation and fermentation, the elasticity and burning power of tobacco leaves can also be enhanced. However, if the fermentation is excessive, the quality will be reduced. Fermentation should be carried out in a dry room. The tobacco leaves are stacked on wooden racks 33 cm above the ground. The shelf should be covered with 3-6cm thick straw, and the stack should be covered with straw curtains, sack and other coverings to increase the stacking temperature. The fermentation method is divided into three steps. First, stack the spirally rolled cigarettes on the cigarette holder, with the petiole facing outwards and the tip facing inward, with a stacking height of 170-200cm, and then cover it tightly. After inserting the hand into the pile for 3 to 4 days, turn the pile when you feel the temperature of the human body. When turning over, turn the tobacco leaves from the top to the bottom, and turn the tobacco leaves inside to the outside, and then stack them for 2 to 3 days. Secondly, remove the shredded tobacco from the rope, fold it piece by piece, and then tie it into 1~1.5kg, and stack it on the smoke rack for 6~7 days. If the temperature in the chimney is too high, turn the chimney once. Finally, the tobacco leaves are bundled according to position and quality, each about 0.5kg. Then they are stacked on a tobacco rack and fermented for about 10 days. If you find that there is too much water or the temperature is too high, turn the chimney to make the water reach the specified standard (about 20%), and then the fermentation is completed. Tobacco processing. After the Chuanmao tobacco and willow tobacco are dried, special processing methods are usually used to further ferment the tobacco leaves, eliminate and reduce the green impurities, improve the flavor, reduce the spiciness, enhance the burning power, and make the color more red and more fragrant. Bright color, can be stored for a long time. There are two processing methods: glutinous rice water processing and red rice juice processing. The treatment method of glutinous rice water. The best season for the processing of glutinous rice water is from "autumnal equinox" to "cold dew" in autumn, and from "vernal equinox" to "qingming" in spring. The production of rice glutinous water is to stir-fry the rice in the iron nest for about 15 minutes, and use 5 to 6 kg of rice for every 50 kg of tobacco leaves. Stir-fry the rice over medium heat until it turns yellow, then stir-fry over high heat. After the rice swells into a black lump, stir fry over medium heat until the rice becomes a black lump, and the inner core of the rice is still a little black by hand. Note that the rice cereal can only be fried into "charcoal", otherwise the function of the rice cereal will be lost. If it is not thoroughly cooked, it will be sticky when cooked. If it is poured on the tobacco leaves, the tobacco leaves will stick together and it is not easy to straighten the tobacco leaves and tear them. After the rice paste is fried, immediately pour it into the prepared hot water pot, cook with 5kg rice and 15kg water for about 10 minutes, wait until the water turns dark brown, filter and cool. When testing with a Baume hydrometer, the concentration should be between 8° and 10°. Do not let water, salt or oil infiltrate the rice paste water, otherwise it will cause smoke. The temperature of rice paste water is controlled by the season. When the temperature is high in summer, the water should be cooled thoroughly; when the temperature is low in winter, the water should be warm and not too hot; it can be slightly hot in spring and autumn. The purpose is to provide a suitable temperature for re-fermentation. Be careful not to paste the rice dregs when it is poured, otherwise it will cause rotten smoke. Tobacco handles soaked in rice paste water should be stacked and covered immediately. It is generally stacked for 20-40 days. High temperature means short time, and vice versa. After stacking for 2 to 10 days, insert it by hand. If you feel warm and not hot, you can turn the pile over. The interval between the second and third inversions gradually decreases until the temperature in the reactor decreases. The processed tobacco leaves are elastic when holding the handle, and can be restored after loosening; hold the cigarette, raise the tip of the knife up, and the blade will slowly fall; it smells no water; the color is red,...​

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I appreciate your reply. I find it quite tedious to translate posts from other languages. As a forum, we request that all posts be in English, or accompanied by an English translation.

Bob

Sorry Bob, I replied to your message in English, but my browser automatically translated from English to Chinese