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Buying from WLT out of Germany - Taxes, Customs etc.

callisto

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Hello,

since I wanted to order some cigar tobacco from WLT to Germany I wanted to ask other members here for their experiences with ordering from WLT to Europe/Germany.

I know that german customs law says, that unprocessed tobacco (classified as non-smoking tobacco) has not got any customs/taxes besides the import tax of 19% which im fine with, but apparently there are some instances where customs wrongly classify whole leaves as smoking tobacco.

Is there a way for this to be prevented, as in WLT could add a paper describing the tobacco as stems-in whole leaf tobacco (e.g. raw, unprocessed), as I heard that something similar was done in shippings to Canada?

Last question, as the Equador Dark Binder just went out of stock, what would you recommend me to order as a binder instead?

My blend would have been:
Equador Maduro Wrapper
Equador Dark Binder
Nicaragua Esteli Ligero, Viso and Seco

Also, if using the named tobaccos in making a cheroot/cigarillo, would you use viso or seco for the filler?

Thanks in Advance
 

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Hello,

since I wanted to order some cigar tobacco from WLT to Germany I wanted to ask other members here for their experiences with ordering from WLT to Europe/Germany.

I know that german customs law says, that unprocessed tobacco (classified as non-smoking tobacco) has not got any customs/taxes besides the import tax of 19% which im fine with, but apparently there are some instances where customs wrongly classify whole leaves as smoking tobacco.

Is there a way for this to be prevented, as in WLT could add a paper describing the tobacco as stems-in whole leaf tobacco (e.g. raw, unprocessed), as I heard that something similar was done in shippings to Canada?

Last question, as the Equador Dark Binder just went out of stock, what would you recommend me to order as a binder instead?

My blend would have been:
Equador Maduro Wrapper
Equador Dark Binder
Nicaragua Esteli Ligero, Viso and Seco

Also, if using the named tobaccos in making a cheroot/cigarillo, would you use viso or seco for the filler?

Thanks in Advance
Welcome. Thank you for joining us.

I would grade my filler first. You'll be surprised how many binder or wrapper half leaves will be with your filler if you go through each one and separate. I also frequently use a half wrapper for a binder.
 

callisto

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Welcome. Thank you for joining us.

I would grade my filler first. You'll be surprised how many binder or wrapper half leaves will be with your filler if you go through each one and separate. I also frequently use a half wrapper for a binder.
I havent ordered yet.

So youre saying that i probably wont have to buy the binder and just use half the maduro leaf as a wrapper?
 

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I havent ordered yet.

So youre saying that i probably wont have to buy the binder and just use half the maduro leaf as a wrapper?
You can, it's just another option. If you are on a budget you can expand your filler choices and use some of the better half leaves of filler for binder and sometimes wrapper. I always grade my filler first and pull out any half leaves that would make binder or wrapper. I make a pretty good Padron copy using Nicaraguan filler and Maduro for binder and wrapper. You'll just have to play with it to find your preferences.
 

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You can, it's just another option. If you are on a budget you can expand your filler choices and use some of the better half leaves of filler for binder and sometimes wrapper. I always grade my filler first and pull out any half leaves that would make binder or wrapper. I make a pretty good Padron copy using Nicaraguan filler and Maduro for binder and wrapper. You'll just have to play with it to find your preferences.
Great, thank you very much.

Do you know who I could write at WLT about my question about if a paper clarifying the raw state of the tobacco could be added?

I sent an email to the official WLT mail address about a different topic a while back and havent gotten an answer.
 

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Great, thank you very much.

Do you know who I could write at WLT about my question about if a paper clarifying the raw state of the tobacco could be added?

I sent an email to the official WLT mail address about a different topic a while back and havent gotten an answer.
Don Carey is the owner, known here as @FmGrowit
he owns WLT and FTT forum
 
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