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Hi Guys!

I know you miss hearing from me when it's not field season so I decided to make a spot where I can share with you some of what I do in the greenhouse. I have a number of accessions of various species out there right now. I'll try to get some pictures up soon.
 

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It will be really nice to see some greens at this time of the year. I can't wait to see the pictures.
 

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your posts are always interesting. i wish i had a green house to putt around in the winter. i would just sit out there with a lawn chair, a burbon and a book.
 

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your posts are always interesting. i wish i had a green house to putt around in the winter. i would just sit out there with a lawn chair, a burbon and a book.

I am looking for some property to build on just for this reason. I really don't care about the house but I want a large greenhouse that I can spend all my free time in.

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Hi Guys!

I know you miss hearing from me when it's not field season so I decided to make a spot where I can share with you some of what I do in the greenhouse. I have a number of accessions of various species out there right now. I'll try to get some pictures up soon.

We miss hearing from you any season. Green house pictures this time of year would be really cool.
 

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Ok, so lots to look at here.


First I have 11 varieties of N. rustica, which you can see are still quite small. If you don't watch them some of the varieties are very prone to bolt in small pots. Not pictures here is one variety that started to bolt in the 3" plastic pots in the growth room so they were transplanted into 6" clay pots instead of the 1 gallon pots.
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I have about a dozen N. clevelandii plants. They have a pretty strong odor, small white flowers, and small capsules that open up while the sepals are still green. I'm going to have to nurse these plants along for quite a while in order to get enough seed.
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This is N. noctiflora. I don't know how it grows in the wild, but in the greenhouse it is rather wild and spindly. I am trying to tame it with tomato cages and string. There is a lot of variety maintained in this accession because it is self-incompatible. There are a number of different mating types so you have to actively cross-pollinate in order to get seed set.
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Below is N. cordifolia. It has been my favorite surprise so far. I can't wait for it to flower.
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This is N. undulata. As you can see, I also have it in some tomato cages because I anticipate issues taming the flower heads.
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These little guys are N. acuminate. They were incredible slow to germinate, and then I lost a number of them in the growth room. With the exception of the rusticas, all the other species I'm sharing were seeded on the same day and you can kind of get a sense for differences in growth rates. These acuminate plants seem to be especially sensitive to the presence of too much water and prefer to be dry. They did much better once I got them into a sand/peat mix.
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Continuing on with my greenhouse tour, this bushy mess is N. alata. They were the fastest to come up after germinating but so far, just lots of leaves. I've heard if you use smaller pots the stress can induce flowering sooner, but otherwise it's just a waiting game. This species is also self-incompatible and that's why I have so many planted.
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This is N. otophora. Not expecting it to flower any time soon...
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This is N. tomentosiformis, one of the proposed progenitor species of N. tabacum. It is photoperiod sensitive and I'm pretty sure I missed the window for this winter. The good thing is it seems to be growing very slowly so hopefully it wont be gargantuan size by next fall when it should flower.
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It appears one of the tomentosiformis plants is a mutant (the one on the left).
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i never grew any of those varietys. if i saw some of them outside i don't even know if i would think they were tobacco by the shape of the leafs.
 

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I tried to grow out N. Amplexicaulis last year. One on an eastern facing porch and two in my tobacco patch. All three bolted to flower at about 6" and died as soon as they started putting on buds. I tried everything I could think of to keep them going but no luck. It was weird, they just browned up and died.
 

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I tried to grow out N. Amplexicaulis last year. One on an eastern facing porch and two in my tobacco patch. All three bolted to flower at about 6" and died as soon as they started putting on buds. I tried everything I could think of to keep them going but no luck. It was weird, they just browned up and died.

I haven't tried that one yet but some of them can be quite difficult. There's this one quadrivalvis accession that has just failed to thrive on both of my attempts to grow it. I might try to seed it directly into the 6" clay pots with sandy soil in the greenhouse.
 

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Looks like we got something in common...I use them flags to mark my stuff also..and I use them to string my bacca on also.
 

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Looks like we got something in common...I use them flags to mark my stuff also..and I use them to string my bacca on also.

we needed a system to show the weekend/holiday waterer girl what to not drown, altho I still don't trust her to get it right.
 

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So here is some more information on the N. clevelandii that I am growing.

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If you look closely you can see that the capsules are often very close to a leaf on the stem. You can see that the flowers are formed at the tips but then as the stem elongates, leaves form between where the flowers were or in very close proximity. It's really quite different than what I can remember seeing on any of the other species I have grown so far and it also makes it difficult to keep track of the capsules as they are developing.


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A couple close ups of the flowers so you can see how small they are. They are pure white inside with a greenish tint along the outside of the corolla tube, with a green hue also in those vein-like structures. They have very tiny acute tips at the end of each lobe. The flowers are not very persistent, lasting maybe two full days.

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The capsules are also quite small and open well in advance of sepal senesance. It's not so easy to make out, but if you look closely you can kinda see that there are two significantly longer sepals on the upper surface of the capsule, with three shorter ones on the bottom. This feature seems to be constant across plants. You can see that it has quite large trichomes (hairs) and these are the source of the excreted compounds which cause the odor and stickiness. They are also present on the leaves but are not as densely packed, which is generally true for most Nicotianas.

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The capsules do not produce many seeds, maybe 200 or so. The seeds are comparable in size to normal tobacco seeds, however, the color seems a little more greyish.
 

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those pictures are very good. it is amazing the detail you can see in them.

I just take them with my phone, a Samsung galaxy S5, which is a whopping 16 megapixels. I have to reduce their scale quite a lot in order to get them uploaded to the site.
 

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Beautiful and revealing photos.

N. clevelandii seems well prepared to re-seed itself, without human intervention (when compared to N. rustica and N. tabacum). I was surprised to learn that, in addition to growing natively in arid, southern California, it also appears in the natural flora of the Sonoran desert of southern Arizona. I consider it one of the few true, wild tobacco species utilized by early Native Americans.

Bob
 
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