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Thanks, a buddy of mine gave me an old cigar mold, I use it religiously, it really shapes the stogies nice, they are 52 ring gauge, and I cut them to about 5-6 inches. I've got to grow more tobacco so I can use my own stuff, but the tobacco I by is really great stuff. The Connecticut broadleaf is pretty rustic but wraps good, the Nicaraguan ligero is power house, I like the Dominican ligero a bit better its smoother. I'm trying out some criollo 98 wrapper now with some Cuban piloto and Dominican seco, will see how that blend works. But I gotta tell ya I haven't smoked a store bought stogie in weeks.
 

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El Cubanito,
I haven't smoked a store bought in a while myself.
You mention the Ligeros. I've been rolling an all Ligero cigar with a Criollo 98 wrapper. The first one was very tasty. It left me wishing that I had rolled it a little longer.
 

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Mac I'm blending like a mad scientist, or a frustrated cook, trying to come up with the stogie both my wife and I can enjoy, yes she is quite the cigar smoker, hits my stash all the time. We both like full body, stogies. The Ecuadorean shade wrapper was really nice to work with but had a little "twang" bitter taste just slightly. This criollo wrapper not as nice to look at but no twang. The ligero from Nicaragua has some power, I think a bit too much for mama so I'm testing out the Dominican ligero, Cuban piloto and some criollo viso I think it's called. If anone has a good blend recipe and wants to share it, I would appreciate any help I can get. I'm a mad roller
 

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My favorite commercial cigar was a Padron. Two leaves of Nicaraguan Seco and one leaf of Nicaraguan Ligero wrapped in a Maduro wrapper is really close to the Padron. Another really nice smoke is two leaves of Dominican Seco and one leaf of Dominican Ligero wrapped in the Corojo wrapper.
 

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Anyone ever try La Aurora? It's a nice hand-rolled Dominican cigar made by a company that's been in business in the Dominican Republic since 1903. The two times I had an opportunity to try Cuban cigars, I had thought neither one matched the quality of La Aurora. In fact, last time I smoked a cigar was back in September, when I was offered a Cuban panatela (I don't remember the brand) ... I think that was the first time I had a cigar in about seven years.
 

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Anyone ever try La Aurora? It's a nice hand-rolled Dominican cigar made by a company that's been in business in the Dominican Republic since 1903. The two times I had an opportunity to try Cuban cigars, I had thought neither one matched the quality of La Aurora. In fact, last time I smoked a cigar was back in September, when I was offered a Cuban panatela (I don't remember the brand) ... I think that was the first time I had a cigar in about seven years.

Something like 99% of "Cubans" are fake. Even cigars people buy in Cuba tend to be fake. Not fake as in not grown in Cuba, but as in counterfeit cigars that are not produced in the factories they are claimed to be from. The only way that I know of to get Cuban cigars and be 100% sure they are authentic is to go to First not be a US citizen, then go to Cuba and buy them at the government store. In other words one possible reason why the Cubans you had could not measure up to La Aurora is that the were not actually Cuban cigars. The other possibility is that La Aurora is better than a real Cuban and that is defiantly possible. I have never had a Cuban or a La Aurora, but I will keep my eye out for one. The La Aurora I mean ;).
 

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Thanks knucklehead I have those leaves with the exception of corojo but will substitute for criollo 98 wrapper.
 

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Something like 99% of "Cubans" are fake. Even cigars people buy in Cuba tend to be fake. Not fake as in not grown in Cuba, but as in counterfeit cigars that are not produced in the factories they are claimed to be from. The only way that I know of to get Cuban cigars and be 100% sure they are authentic is to go to First not be a US citizen, then go to Cuba and buy them at the government store. In other words one possible reason why the Cubans you had could not measure up to La Aurora is that the were not actually Cuban cigars. The other possibility is that La Aurora is better than a real Cuban and that is defiantly possible. I have never had a Cuban or a La Aurora, but I will keep my eye out for one. The La Aurora I mean ;).

Yeah, the first time I smoked a Cuban was in Aruba in, I think, 1999 or 2000. I went to a rather upscale cigar shop in Oranjestad asking to see their selection of Dominican cigars. The sales lady kept pushing the Cuban cigars and so I finally yielded to her "advice" and bought a Cuban Partagas. When I smoked it, the damned thing couldn't burn evenly and kept going out. I think I had to relight it about three or four times. The panatela I was given in September was better than that, but I didn't think its quality was the same as a good Dominican cigar. In fact, I think the machine-rolled Villazon Deluxe (made in Tampa, Florida) was much better than those two Cubans -- certainly better than that Cuban Partagas!
 

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As with American products, some Cuban cigars are crummy.

Bob
Indeed. The opposite of that statement is also very true. Cuban cigars, in general, have increased in quality in recent (last decade) years. Plugged cigars, off flavors, and poor construction are still encountered, but with much less frequency than, say, 1999-2001. It's also interesting to note that they are very smokeable "younger" than they used to be.

Of course, that's just what I've read.
 

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Mac I'm blending like a mad scientist, or a frustrated cook, trying to come up with the stogie both my wife and I can enjoy, yes she is quite the cigar smoker, hits my stash all the time. We both like full body, stogies. The Ecuadorean shade wrapper was really nice to work with but had a little "twang" bitter taste just slightly. This criollo wrapper not as nice to look at but no twang. The ligero from Nicaragua has some power, I think a bit too much for mama so I'm testing out the Dominican ligero, Cuban piloto and some criollo viso I think it's called. If anone has a good blend recipe and wants to share it, I would appreciate any help I can get. I'm a mad roller


El Cubanito,

Try this one out and let me know if it's full enough for you and the Mrs.
2-NicaraguanSeco filler
1-NicaraguanLigero filler
1-DominicanLigero filler
1-HabanoBrazilian Viso filler
1-Dominican binder
½-Maduro wrapper
 

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My favorite commercial cigar was a Padron. Two leaves of Nicaraguan Seco and one leaf of Nicaraguan Ligero wrapped in a Maduro wrapper is really close to the Padron. Another really nice smoke is two leaves of Dominican Seco and one leaf of Dominican Ligero wrapped in the Corojo wrapper.

Knuck,

You don't use a binder?
 

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If you have a sturdy wrapper leaf, and no compulsion to create a visual beauty, then you can often roll a very nice cigar with no binder. It is more difficult to make it perfectly bumpless, with planar sides, but so long as there are no leaks in the wrapper, it works fairly well. I might also note that it's more difficult to roll a truly solid cigar (still with good draw) without a binder, since it requires quite a bit of tension. If the wrapper can take the stress, and it's just for personal enjoyment, I save the binder for another day.

Bob

EDIT: Of course, a binder can offer additional flavors and aromas, and can improve the burn of a slow-burning wrapper.
 

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Indianamac, thanks for the recipe I don't have Brazilian viso but will sub with the viso I have, will let you know.
 

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You guys are killin me! I gotta roll some sticks. I need about twenty degrees higher in the garage and a shipment from Don. Don, let's get crackin dude. Weather's gonna moderate here next week, soon as two more snowstorms blow through. Can't stay this icy forever. Killin me. I crave a good rolling session. Right now. I wanna stick my arms in that stuff all up to my elbows. Crave the smell of it.

Tried rolling a batch in the house before, but I made such an awful mess on the floor.
 

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You guys are killin me! I gotta roll some sticks. I need about twenty degrees higher in the garage and a shipment from Don. Don, let's get crackin dude. Weather's gonna moderate here next week, soon as two more snowstorms blow through. Can't stay this icy forever. Killin me. I crave a good rolling session. Right now. I wanna stick my arms in that stuff all up to my elbows. Crave the smell of it.

Tried rolling a batch in the house before, but I made such an awful mess on the floor.

I know what ya' mean about the mess on the floor! I sweep the floor so as to keep the wife happy!!
 
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