MadFarmer
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Like the 'lep' in leopard?
PressuredLeaf's 2021 desert grow
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koceff
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@MadFarmer Yes, even better.
PressuredLeaf
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I’ve been pronouncing Prilep wrong, thank you for clarifying.
Also, I primed some more YTB and Prilep today. The Prilep plants are mostly primed to the ligero leaf, which i think I will use to attempt to make some Latakia. I also primed my first Corojo leaves, which I’m very excited about. They smell similar to the Prilep, plus a cinnamon like note.
I’m only able to post a single photo, getting a “could not be written to the server” anyone else having issues?
Also, I primed some more YTB and Prilep today. The Prilep plants are mostly primed to the ligero leaf, which i think I will use to attempt to make some Latakia. I also primed my first Corojo leaves, which I’m very excited about. They smell similar to the Prilep, plus a cinnamon like note.
I’m only able to post a single photo, getting a “could not be written to the server” anyone else having issues?
Brown Thumb
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Nope but I use the photo shot thingy.
And a really old I phone
And a really old I phone
I just did a quick test into this thread (which I immediately deleted) of three large photos dropped directly from my computer desktop. No problem evident. Let me know if you experience further issues with posting photos.
Bob
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I’m a little confused, my CT broadleaf keep growing taller and taller, while my pilot are short and getting ready to flower. Oh well, at least the Corojo looks like what I expected.
Oldfella
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Nice looking plants.
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PressuredLeaf
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Today was the first hot day by AZ standards, at about 111f. I was worried about my tobacco since it’s in all day full sun. The tobacco hasn’t skipped a beet and seems to be loving life. The tallest corojo is over my head, and my CT broadleaf is about 5 ft tall. The leaves are getting incredibly sticky.
PressuredLeaf
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I was out of town last week for work, I was worried about the 117f day, but the tobacco didn’t seemed bothered at all.
I’m 5 feet 11, someone forgot to tell the CT broadleaf that it’s only supposed to be 4 ft tall.
Did my first cigar leaf harvest today, mostly volado and seco.
YTB, piloto, Corojo, ct broadleaf
I’m 5 feet 11, someone forgot to tell the CT broadleaf that it’s only supposed to be 4 ft tall.
Did my first cigar leaf harvest today, mostly volado and seco.
YTB, piloto, Corojo, ct broadleaf
PressuredLeaf
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I decided to stalk harvest all of my Prilep since it’s been topped for a few weeks, and I’ll be out of town for a few weeks. The leaves are crazy sticky and very fragrant.
Question for those who have stalk cured Prilep: Do you air cure or sun cure it?
Question for those who have stalk cured Prilep: Do you air cure or sun cure it?
I sun cure mine. I mostly yellow/wilt them in the shop and then move them to full sun. I bring them in if it rains and then move them back into full sun. I love Prilep.
edit: I prime mine.
I have successfully sun-cured my stalk-harvested Prilep. I can't speak for the Arizona sun and current heat. I usually just shove a narrow, flat screwdriver blade through the stalk, near the thick end of the stalk, then use either a piece of wire or a large, partly unbent paper clip as a hook, for hanging the stalks on my clothesline--no pre-yellowing. It typically required about 3 to 4 weeks to complete the cure (here in the Blue Ridge of Virginia). My preference is to remove the individual leaves as they complete curing, and just toss them into a bushel basket in my shed. But that was mostly to avoid the fully cured leaves from being exposed to rain, while the remainder of the stalk was still sun-curing.
Bob
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PressuredLeaf
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Thanks guys, that makes sense. I think I’ll yellow them inside, then move them outside to dry. I don’t want to risk accidentally making dried spinach.
PressuredLeaf
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I was out of town for two weeks and have a few things to report. The CT broadleaf is now about 7ft tall and the corojo is close behind. I had no idea CT could get that tall, there must be some magic dust in Skychasers soil! I primed more CT broadleaf and Corojo 99 mostly seco/viso.
I also noticed something very interesting with the YTB I had yellowing in a towel while I was gone. Normally, when my leaf is yellow I let it air cure then rehydrate and go in the kiln. It cures a very light brown and develops a nice toasty smell in the kiln. In fact all of my tobacco cigar, oriental etc develops the a similar pleasant toasty sweet smell. However, the cigar leaf for instance doesn't smell like "cigars". When I nervously opened the towel expecting to find moldy YTB, I was pleasantly surprised to fin nice yellow leaves on top and very dark brown wet leaves in the middle with a noticeable ammonia odor. When I took the darkest leaves out to dry they ended up smelling vaguely of cigar leaves (iirc similar to the MD609 from WLT). This got me thinking, maybe I could culture whatever was growing in these wet conditions and inoculate my other cigar varieties in an attempt to make the more familiar cigar leaves. So, I took a dark leaf from the center and put it in some water with some lb broth and a tsp or so of sugar. The next day I had an actively fermenting brew that I diluted into 10 pts water. This was sprayed on the other cigar leaves, and they were returned to the kiln. I'll report back what happens later. My hope is whatever is growing in their will break down the nitrogen compounds in my leaves releasing ammonia (which ive never smelled in my kilning attempts so far) and generate something more "cigar" like
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I also noticed something very interesting with the YTB I had yellowing in a towel while I was gone. Normally, when my leaf is yellow I let it air cure then rehydrate and go in the kiln. It cures a very light brown and develops a nice toasty smell in the kiln. In fact all of my tobacco cigar, oriental etc develops the a similar pleasant toasty sweet smell. However, the cigar leaf for instance doesn't smell like "cigars". When I nervously opened the towel expecting to find moldy YTB, I was pleasantly surprised to fin nice yellow leaves on top and very dark brown wet leaves in the middle with a noticeable ammonia odor. When I took the darkest leaves out to dry they ended up smelling vaguely of cigar leaves (iirc similar to the MD609 from WLT). This got me thinking, maybe I could culture whatever was growing in these wet conditions and inoculate my other cigar varieties in an attempt to make the more familiar cigar leaves. So, I took a dark leaf from the center and put it in some water with some lb broth and a tsp or so of sugar. The next day I had an actively fermenting brew that I diluted into 10 pts water. This was sprayed on the other cigar leaves, and they were returned to the kiln. I'll report back what happens later. My hope is whatever is growing in their will break down the nitrogen compounds in my leaves releasing ammonia (which ive never smelled in my kilning attempts so far) and generate something more "cigar" like
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The CT Broadleaf height doesn't sound right. ARS-GRIN reports it as "waist high". In my image below, from 2011, the measuring stick is 48" tall.
With regard to your kilning, what is your temp and humidity range?
Bob
EDIT: Here is an image of CT Broadleaf from CORESTA
With regard to your kilning, what is your temp and humidity range?
Bob
EDIT: Here is an image of CT Broadleaf from CORESTA
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PressuredLeaf
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The CT Broadleaf height doesn't sound right. ARS-GRIN reports it as "waist high". In my image below, from 2011, the measuring stick is 48" tall.
With regard to your kilning, what is your temp and humidity range?
Bob
EDIT: Here is an image of CT Broadleaf from CORESTA
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Yeah it seems to high to me as well. The only seeds I ordered were YTB, Corojo 99, piloto cubano, and ct broadleaf. I though they were maybe piloto, but the leaves don’t look right.
Picture of the “broadleaf” vs a Corojo 99 leaf.
My kiln is set to 128, and the humidity is very high (no meter) I keep the leaves in large bags so I don’t have to keep filling up the crockpot.
Here's my Piloto Cubano leaf from 2017. Mine grow to over 7 feet in height.
Bob
Bob
PressuredLeaf
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That leaf looks similar in length, but most of my “broadleaves” are about 16 inches wide in the center, or more.Here's my Piloto Cubano leaf from 2017. Mine grow to over 7 feet in height.
Bob
I did have a labeling mix up at the beginning of the year with the CT broadleaf and the piloto cubano . On the one hand the plants that I *thought* were piloto are quite short ~4ft, and have small appiculate leaves. Maybe they are actually broadleaf and just don’t grow well here? On the other hand if my mislabeled broadleaf plants are actually piloto, why do they have such broad leaves? I’m not sure what’s going on.
Different year. Piloto Cubano (which exhibited a lot of genetic variability) selected for the broadest leaf shape.
Bob
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