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For full-size plants, a 16 sq. ft. bed can easily grow 4 or 5 plants. For the smallest Orientals, maybe 20 plants using staggered, dense planting. Putting in 10 large plants would probably give you results similar to growing in 5 gallon buckets. These are just my guesses.

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For full-size plants, a 16 sq. ft. bed can easily grow 4 or 5 plants. For the smallest Orientals, maybe 20 plants using staggered, dense planting. Putting in 10 large plants would probably give you results similar to growing in 5 gallon buckets. These are just my guesses.

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Well these are all Habano seed. I dunno whether they are more full or more oriental. I spose we'll find out.

There's a second bed same size where the surrogate spread a buncha used coffee grounds instead of stinky hay. Those sprouts are struggling for size. Apparently, baccy sprouts don't like coffee.

Seems odd since a good cigar tastes so good with coffee next morning This morning I am enjoying morning mouth from last night's La Flor de las Antillas sungrown robusto. One terrific cigar. Drinking espresso latte. Bearswatter made me three burritos with pork chop, smashed beans, and corn. Life is tasty. My biggest prob is: What shall I smoke tonight.

Rain unreal. Sprouts in my yard are standing up to it remarkably well. Tornadoes smashed up houses not 3/4 mile from here.
 

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Theres no nutrients in coffee grounds add miracal gro garden soil and see the difference. Feeeed your tobacco feeeeed it! ( like the scotts commercial) LOL
Well these are all Habano seed. I dunno whether they are more full or more oriental. I spose we'll find out.

There's a second bed same size where the surrogate spread a buncha used coffee grounds instead of stinky hay. Those sprouts are struggling for size. Apparently, baccy sprouts don't like coffee.

Seems odd since a good cigar tastes so good with coffee next morning This morning I am enjoying morning mouth from last night's La Flor de las Antillas sungrown robusto. One terrific cigar. Drinking espresso latte. Bearswatter made me three burritos with pork chop, smashed beans, and corn. Life is tasty. My biggest prob is: What shall I smoke tonight.

Rain unreal. Sprouts in my yard are standing up to it remarkably well. Tornadoes smashed up houses not 3/4 mile from here.
 

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the surrogate spread a buncha used coffee grounds instead of stinky hay. Those sprouts are struggling for size. Apparently, baccy sprouts don't like coffee.

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Consider this: The hay is insulating the soil from the warmth of the sun. Your tobacco plants do not like cool soil conditions. When I experimented with no till a few years ago my entire patch of tobacco failed to thrive. I went out in late June/early July and pulled the hay away from the plants. The soil was noticeably colder than the not mulched plants.
 

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I am not about to say a thing. I own zero credentials when it comes to growing plants.

OTOH, the few survivors in my own back yard have a 4" layer of mulch, humus, and topsoil to snack on. Next year, I may get some 2x12s to make them a raised bed, and fill that in with more of the same.

But let's get thru this first.
 

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I've done so much wrong this year that if I learn from my mistakes I can go pro next year.
 

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I think Darwin is at work. The few survivors I have left utterly refuse to die. Monday, we had the most torrentious frog strangling downpour in the entire history of wet. I measured 2 1/2" in half an hour. That's right. Measured. And it wasn't done yet. Went out yesterday morning and, even though all looked yellow, only one of these plants was plastered to the mud. Rained again yesterday. I go out this morning and they are pretty yellow, but still determined to stand up. Only lost that one in the mud.

I live in Newark Delaware. First word in Newark is Noah. Delaware is an Appoquinimink Indian word which roughly translates: "shut up and bail the canoe".

Survival of the wettest.
 

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We've registered 4 inches of rain above normal for the month of June so far... can't wait to see what the rest of the month has in store.
Could be worse.. I could live in Delaware.... :rolleyes:
 

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I think Darwin is at work. The few survivors I have left utterly refuse to die. Monday, we had the most torrentious frog strangling downpour in the entire history of wet. I measured 2 1/2" in half an hour. That's right. Measured. And it wasn't done yet. Went out yesterday morning and, even though all looked yellow, only one of these plants was plastered to the mud. Rained again yesterday. I go out this morning and they are pretty yellow, but still determined to stand up. Only lost that one in the mud.

I live in Newark Delaware. First word in Newark is Noah. Delaware is an Appoquinimink Indian word which roughly translates: "shut up and bail the canoe".

Survival of the wettest.

I'm diggin' your sense of humor. It's not quite "dry" humor is it?
 

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One of my surviving habano sproutlets turned out to be three sprouts clumped together. Dragged Bearswatter out there last evening. She took a teaspoon spoon, of all things, and coaxed the three apart. In the process, three turned out to be four. Planted them spread among the others. One went where the mud plastered feller expired. It's just impossibly wet is all. The ten day forecast says sunny all week, which just about guarantees we get drowned again soon. The little habanos are way more green than the big fat yellow orinocos, which are surprisingly yellow. The one that died of mud was a mayan mopan. The one thing thriving best is a horde of no-see-ums, nailed us both.

This ground is not good. There's a three or four inch layer of yummy looking black topsoil full of eight inch worms over a sticky muck of orange clay and gravel. I always thought this place had to be a river bed, cause it's such a magnet for rain and lightning. There's a Red Clay Creek one side of us and a White Clay Creek the other side. I think we used to be Orange Clay Creek before the developers came along. If I do this again, I'll raise beds and buy dirt. Then again, by the time I buy dirt I might as well skip the no-see-ums and just buy Don's leaf. Makes more sense.

What's the point? No wonder I got a black thumb. I can't see the point.
 

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Three sunny days in a row! Ground ought to get good and hot today.

Got little critters hopping round the yard. Will runny babbits eat tobacco?
 

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Drove to Palmyra PA today to deliver a motorcycle I sold. In Strasburg, just this side of Lancaster, I spotted loads of fields planted in PA Broadleaf I suppose:

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The Amish have got it going on.
 
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