Whole leaf tobacco

[deluxestogie]

Larry, you need to get with the times, and plant a few acres of quinoa, organic tofu and free-range guacamole. And maybe an acre of Greek yogurt.

Bob

 

[larryccf]

I would grow 55 to 60 acres of burley tobacco from 1993 to 2009 . In 2011 I was cut by big tobacco down to 25 acres . In 2014 I and most farmers here quit growing for big tobacco Phillip Morris cut out all farmer contracts . They are now buying tobacco from other countries and cut USA burley farmers almost completely out . R.J. Reynolds is still buying but only from a few farmers .

Morris started buying through a sub contractor for their USA tobacco purchases . This was to get any liability off their shoulders with farmers laborers . GAP Tobacco Training is training that all tobacco farmers who sold tobacco had to take in order to sell tobacco . Government was sticking their nose into farms and farm worker treatment . Gov was claiming workers was not getting paid , some say that farmers was working children under age . Some farmers was fined large amounts of money because some workers that was questioned by the Gov said they did not get paid .
I only use 8 to 10 workers plus me , my son , at a time and never had any problems . I paid the cash and when we eat lunch we sat at my table with me eating .

I am growing a garden size tobacco crop now at around 3.5 acres of mixed varieties . No hired help yet , but may have to find me a couple of workers to help this year .

I do miss growing a large crop but at the cheap prices being paid , farmers could not make any profits .

it's a shame. Most folks think "if it's not broken, don't try to fix it". In gov't mentality, the logic seems too often to be, "let's see if we can't break it".

Give some serious thought to finishing that webpage that webmost started for you - more and more smokers are turning to RYO and to leaf tobacco, so it's got to be a helluva of a "growth industry". From what i saw on that website, you've got some damn nice tobacco.

 

[ZigZagZeppelin]

I've thought all along that Big Bonner grew a lot of the tobacco that WLT sells. If thats not the case maybe the two of them can hook something up?

I've liked all the tobacco I've bought from WLT.

 

[Gavroche]

[QUOTE = deluxestogie; 138670] Larry, vous devez obtenir avec les temps et planter quelques acres de quinoa,

Bob [/ QUOTE]

j'ai semé quelques plants de Quinoa... 5 ! un animal bâtard enculé me les a mangés !

I sowed some plants of Quinoa ... 5! A ****ed bastard animal ate them to me!

 

[OldDinosaurWesH]

It has been my experience that people, especially these Millennials, really look down their nose at me when they find out I grow my own tobacco. I'ts like I'm some kind of pervert or something. It's bad enough that I'm an evil smoker, but actually growing tobacco??? Double evil pervert!!! I occasionally run into some (usually a smoker) that shows some interest. These people are the exception not the rule.

Of course, what I do with my own time and garden space is none of their business! I've taken to "keeping my head down" re: tobacco growing.

Bob:

re: Quinoa growing. I'm an Ag guy, and quinoa is a major buzzword these days. Where I come from, it's called Pigweed (genus Amaranthus), and we spray the heck out of it. Trying to make an actual crop out of this stuff is just a bunch of academics milking the Federal grant teat! I'm pretty sure your are just joking around on said subject, but I get pretty hacked off when these alleged science guys start braying on about this or that. Its all about $$$. Most of these guys couldn't make a living out in the real world if they had to. Our Federal, State, and Local Governments are chock full of people with worthless college degrees who need a job. This is why honest people are buried under gov't regulations they can't possibly comply with.

Okay, enough soap-box for now.

Wes H.

P.S. I get an alumni magazine from my university periodically. There was recently an article about quinoa research. The researcher was saying that it would take many years, possibly decades before quinoa could be made into a useful crop. I wonder what he's planning on doing for the next thirty years? University researchers used to put out useful things like new varieties of wheat or corn. Nowadays it seems that most of the useful new varieties of just about any crop you can think about is coming from private industry. Private industry has to actually produce something. Not just dither along for the rest of their careers on the taxpayer dime. Arghhh!

 

[BigBonner]

Larry, you need to get with the times, and plant a few acres of quinoa, organic tofu and free-range guacamole. And maybe an acre of Greek yogurt.

Bob

Will you send me the seeds ?

If quinoa is the same thing as Pig Weed then I could get rich . All I have to do is plant some tobacco and it sprouts right up and out grows my crop . I do have a few of them in my patch growing . They say pig weed seed will survive in the ground for forty years and still sprout and grow .

I thought about growing some Cheerios , The box I bought did not sprout .

 

[4wdboss]

@BigBonner, I'm gonna be ordering from you probably this next week.

 

[burge]

Its good stuff his orange yellow is more of a natural red. Different than Dons but just as good. Order it all form wlt and big and you won't be disappointed.

 

[SmokesAhoy]

It's related bigb, but quinoa is something you can't grow down south. It's a fad anyway

 

[4wdboss]

@BigBonner, I'm gonna be ordering from you probably this next week.

Sent order to your email.

 

[burge]

You will like it both Big's and WLT

 

[ZigZagZeppelin]

You will like it both Big's and WLT

I'll probably try a 10 lb lot in 2-3 weeks. The aged mid stalk burley, some virginia too.

 

[burge]

I like it. The yellow is quite mild the orangey yellow is a little stronger.

 

[burge]

You may like the yellow twist bud.

 

[SmokesAhoy]

Ask him about his silver river too, only vendor I know of that sells it.

 

[ZigZagZeppelin]

Larry has a lot of strains I've never tried.

Silver River, YTB, I definitely want some AGED Kentucky Burley too, and a bit of the yellow VFC and also the orange VFC.

I like a smooth full body cigarette.

 

[larryccf]

Ask him about his silver river too, only vendor I know of that sells it.

Your post reminded me i had a sample of the silver river i hadn't tasted yet - tried some this afternoon. Actually a damn nice smooth smoke - reminded me of Pall Malls, which i smoked at one time, but more like a mild smooth Pall Mall. The nicotene is still more than my system can tolerate though, but for me it'd make a nice occasional smoke, maybe an after dinner smoke.

 

[ZigZagZeppelin]

The Silver River is $24 a pound, I got an email reply from BB. So thats a bit too much $ per lb for me. The rest of what interests me is much more reasonable.

 

[BigBonner]

A lot of my tobacco I grow organically and organic prices are higher . It does take a lot more time to produce a pound of organic than it would the modern way .
I may reduce the price on my organic and quit growing organic tobacco . If it was not organic it would still be priced around $18 a pound . That is $6 a pound more for organic growing ???

What is a fair price for organic tobacco ??

 

[Gavroche]

A lot of my tobacco I grow organically and organic prices are higher . It does take a lot more time to produce a pound of organic than it would the modern way .
What is a fair price for organic tobacco ??

Your price... very difficult to have big feet and big leaf with organic...