Reviews of Nicaraguan Habano & Wrapper Samples

[deluxestogie]

DonH,
If your filler is in low case, the binder in medium case, and the wrapper in high case, it's nearly impossible to roll one that's too tight, without tearing the wrapper. I aim for filler that is almost ready to crumble. The cigar is immediately smokable. A well-packed, low case filler will easily burn a damp wrapper.

The leaf varieties that Don is making available to you and me are definitely the Big League.

Bob

 

[DonH]

My filler was defintitely very low case. Maybe I'm rolling them too long to draw well. They're seven inches long.

 

[johnlee1933]

My filler was defintitely very low case. Maybe I'm rolling them too long to draw well. They're seven inches long.

I roll mine 5" to 7" long (46 ring) all the time with no problem.

 

[jekylnz]

I roll mine 5" to 7" long (46 ring) all the time with no problem.

Yeah I like mine around the 44-46 gauge..I find if they're too big gauge they burn hotter (like a bonfire) and it compromises the taste..I was rolling 54-58s before..but my daily ones are now 44.45s..even as small as 36s can have alot nicer taste for longer through out the whole smoking duration of the cigar

 

[deluxestogie]

My filler was defintitely very low case. Maybe I'm rolling them too long to draw well. They're seven inches long.

Length is seldom a problem. A stogie (7" x 30-34 ring) is a tricky thing to roll well. Under about 38 ring, the filler does need to be a bit less dense, since you begin to get a venturi effect. I had to roll about 1000 cigars before I had the right touch for a long, thin stogie.

Bob

 

[SmokesAhoy]

Will have to look that word up later but that may be why I like the short ones. For me they always taste better, so much so that I had taken to even cutting my churchills in half. The flavor always seemed more pronounced in a robusto.

 

[SmokesAhoy]

I'm a bonehead. So i was saying it was a little strong and I wanted to cut it with something, well, turns out I was making viso puros lol. yeah it was a little strong, ya think??!

so i got into the seco today, wow thats nice. i'd say its a tad below medium, toss some viso in there and presto, perfection.

haha, i think when i opened the bag originally i was so excited i forgot what the spanish words meant and mixed it up when i rebagged it.

welp, gonna have a bunch of cigars today, and have a bbq. hope everyone has a great day today, but takes a moment to consider why it's a holiday.

 

[DonH]

Then I rolled one with Criollo 98 Seco, Habano Viso, a Capote Sumatra binder, and a Havana Clara wrapper. I think I may have gotten the right amount of tightness this time. I watched the video again on the accordion method, because I don't like loose cigars, but I need them to draw well.

Just smoked that one. It was tighter but it drew perfectly. Tasted great, can't go wrong with any of these leaves.

Last night I rolled a couple with the Habano Seco and Viso with Bezuki binder. They came out a little loose. This does take a lot of practice. Now I have a lot of leaves to practice with. I think I need to watch some rolling videos again to brush up on my wrapping technique. At least now I did it right one time, so that's progress.

 

[SmokesAhoy]

So I just got back in from making a fantastic one, now that i have the leaf sorted. It was 1 strip viso down the core, surrounded by 3 strips seco layered outside of that, viso binder, seco wrapper.

perfection. rich dark earthy flavor, dense clouds of white smoke, perfect draw. the ash made it to half the length of the cigar before i flicked it because i didn't want it accidentally ending up on my shirt or lap, and was a white fluffy ash with a perfect cone shape. flavor paired up *perfectly* with bourbon. match made in heaven. this smoked better than the random 10/stick cigars i receive as gifts. it's not even comparable. not even close.

i'm still working on puros, mixing viso and seco, the high end wrappers will be used, but i want to fully experience this au natural before i introduce new flavors to the mix. i honestly cant imagine it tasting better, but have no doubt that it will. (i just hope it doesnt improve it too much, cause i'm broke lol).

fruit pectin is used to glue them and i clip both ends at time of production so its ready to smoke whenever down the road without breaking out clippers.

seriously pour a neat bourbon, light one of these beauties up and sit back and enjoy heaven on earth.

am i glad i got this ball rolling? hah, take a wild guess.

Once I get a nice blend down between the viso and seco I'm gonna roll a bunch of uniform ones up, and then take the fancy wrappers and apply them after. this way i have a standardized product and can accurately sense what each individual wrapper brings to the table.

i bet this and Bulleit 100% rye bourbon would pair up perfectly with a rare ribeye steak. birthday is in a couple weeks, that's probably just what i'll do Rockafeller probably didn't have it this good

 

[johnlee1933]

I don't understand Rye bourbon ? A typo maybe?

 

[FmGrowit]

I don't understand Rye bourbon ? A typo maybe?

His head is in a cloud. Let him enjoy it.

I got like that when I found that Latakia. It wears off...all to soon enough.

 

[SmokesAhoy]

http://www.connosr.com/reviews/bulleit/bulleit-95-rye/the-new-kid-on-the-block/

well 95% at any rate. try some if you are a bourbon fan. but this is more about the tobacco, less about the drink, i just think it pairs perfectly.

 

[DonH]

http://www.connosr.com/reviews/bulleit/bulleit-95-rye/the-new-kid-on-the-block/

well 95% at any rate. try some if you are a bourbon fan. but this is more about the tobacco, less about the drink, i just think it pairs perfectly.

Well, since we're all getting nitpicky and ruining your cigar high, John's point is that Rye is not Bourbon. Bourbon is made out of corn. You gotta be accurate talking to old guys about whiskey Now get off my lawn!

 

[DonH]

Just smoked one with Habano Seco and Viso with a Bezuki wrapper. Very nice. I like the Bezuki.

 

[SmokesAhoy]

aww schooled again. oh well, i like my rye then thanks for setting me straight

 

[johnlee1933]

Well, since we're all getting nitpicky and ruining your cigar high, John's point is that Rye is not Bourbon. Bourbon is made out of corn. You gotta be accurate talking to old guys about whiskey Now get off my lawn!

Are you hinting I might have sampled a barrel or three over the years? LOL

 

[FmGrowit]

Just smoked one with Habano Seco and Viso with a Bezuki wrapper. Very nice. I like the Bezuki.

Save a little of the Bezuki for a special occasion. I don't have any more and now that I'm not selling it, I can tell you where it came from.

I pulled a few strings and called on a favor to get that Bezuki. It was from the 2008 crop and held in the Oliva warehouse in Tampa...yep, the same stuff used by the premium cigar maker.

I can't get any more of that particular batch, but I'm hoping my newest supplier can come through with something close.

I think you guys are going to be surprised with some of the stuff I have an eye on.

 

[jekylnz]

Just smoked that one. It was tighter but it drew perfectly. Tasted great, can't go wrong with any of these leaves.

Last night I rolled a couple with the Habano Seco and Viso with Bezuki binder. They came out a little loose. This does take a lot of practice. Now I have a lot of leaves to practice with. I think I need to watch some rolling videos again to brush up on my wrapping technique. At least now I did it right one time, so that's progress.

If your having issues with draw..tightness etc..try the book roll...it's definitely the way to do it when you want to be sure it will burn and come out ok..it's for sure the easiest way...u can't go wrong..I have never had draw or tight/loose issues since changing to this method. .just make pile...strong on top..cut to length u want..fold filler in half..then half again as you start rolling..tucking start of bind leaf in 2nd fold..easy as

 

[Matty]

Save a little of the Bezuki for a special occasion. I don't have any more and now that I'm not selling it, I can tell you where it came from.

I pulled a few strings and called on a favor to get that Bezuki. It was from the 2008 crop and held in the Oliva warehouse in Tampa...yep, the same stuff used by the premium cigar maker.

I can't get any more of that particular batch, but I'm hoping my newest supplier can come through with something close.

I think you guys are going to be surprised with some of the stuff I have an eye on.

You know, that sample of Capote Sumatra comes pretty darn close. Looks, smell and flavor are very very similar.

 

[DonH]

If your having issues with draw..tightness etc..try the book roll...it's definitely the way to do it when you want to be sure it will burn and come out ok..it's for sure the easiest way...u can't go wrong..I have never had draw or tight/loose issues since changing to this method. .just make pile...strong on top..cut to length u want..fold filler in half..then half again as you start rolling..tucking start of bind leaf in 2nd fold..easy as

Thanks, Todd, I'll give that a try.