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So, another week and a lot more growth. I moved three plants onto a second shelf for more room, and they seem to appreciate it.

Now here’s a weird one: yesterday I found a wasp in there, it was easy to catch with some tweezers and I flushed it down the toilet. Found another one today, and flushed it away! They seemed very very tired/drained. Any idea where the wasps came from? One is a data point, two has me questioning if Pasteur got the whole spontaneous generation thing wrong...

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They are attracted to the heat and light, get in, and then can't get out. Then starve.

That makes sense, but now I’m more concerned how wasps are making their way into my second story apartment.

Also, not really visible in the picture, but a few plants are getting ready to flower.

What are people’s opinion on topping vs not topping for cigar tobacco? I plant to let one flower for seeds, but will topping produce a more “flavorful” or rich leaf?
 

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Induction of early flowering in tobacco is typically caused by shortened photo periods and low temperatures. In others words, the plants in your grow chamber may think it’s fall. Any pics of suspected inflorescent buds?
 

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Any idea where the wasps came from?
I'm loosely following this so I'm not sure where you got your growing medium, but I would have to guess that if they're not coming from outside then they have to be in the medium (soil) in egg form. Bugs are super resilient. They ALWAYS, magically find a way into my indoor grows. Without fail.
 

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Induction of early flowering in tobacco is typically caused by shortened photo periods and low temperatures. In others words, the plants in your grow chamber may think it’s fall. Any pics of suspected inflorescent buds?

All plants are under a 16/8 photoperiod. I would guess temps are around 90f in the tent. The only difference I can think of is about a week ago I started turning on the ventilation fan for about an hour a day, and I keep my apartment at 62f so maybe that shocked them? See the suspected buds below:

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Another week, and more growth! Did a fair amount of bud snipping and sucker control. Other than that not much to report, other than that these things need ALOT of water. I was watering once~3 weeks when they were seedlings. Now it’s about twice a week. Reminds me of something one of my professors told me in college “plants are just water pumps”, well I get what she meant .

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Here we are today, all the plants have attempted to flower, and I only let one actually do it. Interestingly the plants on the lower level seem to be producing more leaf volume and seem to be maturing a little slower.

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Looking good. On the plants with more volume did you clip the buds before they formed?
 

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Looking good. On the plants with more volume did you clip the buds before they formed?
They were clipped later, but that’s because no buds were present on the lower plants until about two weeks after.


In other news, I noticed quite a few yellowing leaves so I went for my first priming. I separated the leaves based on size and skewered them onto sharpened bamboo sticks. I decided to hang them in my closet to cure, since that is the most temperature stable part of my apartment. Most are probably too small for wrapper, but look like they are good size for filler. Priming also opened up a ton of canopy space, hopefully the other leaves will enlarge.

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They were clipped later, but that’s because no buds were present on the lower plants until about two weeks after.


In other news, I noticed quite a few yellowing leaves so I went for my first priming. I separated the leaves based on size and skewered them onto sharpened bamboo sticks. I decided to hang them in my closet to cure, since that is the most temperature stable part of my apartment. Most are probably too small for wrapper, but look like they are good size for filler. Priming also opened up a ton of canopy space, hopefully the other leaves will enlarge.

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This is a fascinating thread for me, since I am heavily considering growing in a grow tent. Where I live, I could probably grow nearly 9 months out of 12, but the plants would need massive watering and likely shade, even if I waited as long as possible to let them mature before transplanting the plants outside. On the other hand, I think the indoor temperatures where I live would be perfect for grow tent temperatures (assuming the grow tent naturally assumes a temperature that is 5-15 degrees warmer than indoors). All that, and I would really hate to go outside any time between May to October.

That being said, I had a lot of questions due to the lack of grow tent tobacco grow logs, although there's tons of grow tent logs of the green stuff.

How tall did your plants grow, and how big were their containers/pots?

Is the quality of the plants differentiable from that of outdoor plants (if you have tried outdoor plants)

How tall is your grow tent? (looking back before I post, I remembered you were growing Little Dutch)

What are the conditions in the tent? (avg. temperature, humidity, etc.)

Also do you have ventilation with a carbon filter? (if you do, do you think that the smell that the filter presumably gets rid of is worth it? or if you don't, do you wish you had one? Based off the internet, it seems like most people who use carbon filters for grow tents do it cause the green stuff smells bad, but it appears that tobacco the plant does not smell objectively bad, and that the ornamental varieties even smell pleasant)

About grow tents (I have never dealt with relatively small, enclosed places), is it fairly simple to manipulate humidity in a grow tent?
My logic is that a humidifier can increase the humidity in a room with some time, so I assume that it would get its job done much faster in a grow tent. If that's true, than I assume a more simple method such as having a big container of warm water in a grow tent would increase humidity.

Sorry for the load of questions, but I appreciate if you take the time to answer them.
 

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This is a fascinating thread for me, since I am heavily considering growing in a grow tent. Where I live, I could probably grow nearly 9 months out of 12, but the plants would need massive watering and likely shade, even if I waited as long as possible to let them mature before transplanting the plants outside. On the other hand, I think the indoor temperatures where I live would be perfect for grow tent temperatures (assuming the grow tent naturally assumes a temperature that is 5-15 degrees warmer than indoors). All that, and I would really hate to go outside any time between May to October.

That being said, I had a lot of questions due to the lack of grow tent tobacco grow logs, although there's tons of grow tent logs of the green stuff.

How tall did your plants grow, and how big were their containers/pots? I used one gallon grow bags, the plants got about 2.5ft tall, but little dutch is a small plant and 1 gallon restricted root growth.

Is the quality of the plants differentiable from that of outdoor plants (if you have tried outdoor plants) I've never done outdoor plants, the quality of the indoor material is tbd.

How tall is your grow tent? (looking back before I post, I remembered you were growing Little Dutch) I believe its 36x36x72
What are the conditions in the tent? (avg. temperature, humidity, etc.) No regulators were used, my appt is about 64f the tent was probably 15f warmer. Humidity was very high as well. light cycle was 16 on 8 off.

Also do you have ventilation with a carbon filter? (if you do, do you think that the smell that the filter presumably gets rid of is worth it? or if you don't, do you wish you had one? Based off the internet, it seems like most people who use carbon filters for grow tents do it cause the green stuff smells bad, but it appears that tobacco the plant does not smell objectively bad, and that the ornamental varieties even smell pleasant) I do have a carbon ventilation system but did not use it. The plants hardly smelled at all. The smell to me was generic green plant.

About grow tents (I have never dealt with relatively small, enclosed places), is it fairly simple to manipulate humidity in a grow tent? Since winter is so dry here, to manipulate humidity I would open the top vent to let humid air out. Probably not necessary, tobacco liked heat and humidity.
My logic is that a humidifier can increase the humidity in a room with some time, so I assume that it would get its job done much faster in a grow tent. If that's true, than I assume a more simple method such as having a big container of warm water in a grow tent would increase humidity.

Sorry for the load of questions, but I appreciate if you take the time to answer them. Happy to answer what I can, it was an experiment for me too.


The bad news is quite a bit of the tobacco i picked cured slightly greenish. I got stuck away from home from the virus and the tobacco dried a little too quickly. NBD I'm still going to cure it. Worse case scenario ill turn it into cavendish or perique.
 

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The bad news is quite a bit of the tobacco i picked cured slightly greenish. I got stuck away from home from the virus and the tobacco dried a little too quickly. NBD I'm still going to cure it. Worse case scenario ill turn it into cavendish or perique.
Can you write the dimensions (or at least height) of your tent ? Same with average temperature and humidity.

Also, we're your little dutch plants smaller than average? and what size pots were they in as their final resting spot? (they normally grow to about 3 ft in height)
 

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Can you write the dimensions (or at least height) of your tent ? Same with average temperature and humidity.

Also, we're your little dutch plants smaller than average? and what size pots were they in as their final resting spot? (they normally grow to about 3 ft in height)

Sorry for the delayed response, I suffer from extreme laziness! The tent is about 36x36X72 iirc. The plants are in one gallon grow bags. They grew to about 3ft tall, but the leaves are probably smaller than what you would get outdoors, probably because I had too many in there.

Anyways long story short. I picked a bunch of leaves before I left for corona vacation. They color cured too quickly while I was gone. A few months later, when I returned I moistened them and put them in old wlt vapor proof bags. I sous vide cured these bags at 140f for about 3 weeks. The resulting tobacco is defiantly darker and smells very sweet, almost like cavendish. I’m going to let it age a while before smoking any. I haven’t weighed it, but I would guess I have around a 10 oz of leaf.
 

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I know the leaf is way to young to smoke, but I could resist. So I de stemmed a leaf and roughly chopped it with a sharp knife. I loaded it in my pipe and gave it a light. Although it’s a little grassy, it’s surprisingly mild. It will be fun to see how it is in a year or two.
 
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